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Old 12-29-2015 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Wow. I guess I'll spell out the obvious for you. The insinuation that you made that they were descending using FMC Speed. There are alternatives; perhaps they were using one of them and thusly exceeded 250kts below 10,000ft.

Is that clear now?
Gee PC... I don't how to thank you. After 27 years of FMC Speed and MCP Speed, now its all clear to me!

Gosh I'll remember not to fiddle with the default 240/10000 thing on either the Cimb or Descent pages unless non U.S. ATCs assign free speed or requests high speed below ten.

There's the possibility the crew used the default setting of 240/10,000 or 250/10,000 selected on the Descent Page while using V/S resulting in the loss of Speed Protection.

Since you hadn't figured it our about my post on the matter, PotatoChip, I was invoking a bit of sarcasm. Read the definition SPELLED out for you.

Sarcasm. 1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain. 2a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individualb : the use or language of sarcasm.

All the best and Happy New Year!

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Old 12-30-2015 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Gee PC... I don't how to thank you. After 27 years of FMC Speed and MCP Speed, now its all clear to me!

Gosh I'll remember not to fiddle with the default 240/10000 thing on either the Cimb or Descent pages unless non U.S. ATCs assign free speed or requests high speed below ten.

There's the possibility the crew used the default setting of 240/10,000 or 250/10,000 selected on the Descent Page while using V/S resulting in the loss of Speed Protection.

Since you hadn't figured it our about my post on the matter, PotatoChip, I was invoking a bit of sarcasm. Read the definition SPELLED out for you.

Sarcasm. 1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain. 2a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individualb : the use or language of sarcasm.

All the best and Happy New Year!
Ok. I didn't get your joke. My bad. It's a recurring problem I am having looked into.
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Old 12-31-2015 | 06:58 AM
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Probably not an exact fit for TOTD, but I dunno where else to put it.

Day before yesterday at DCA, I'm in cockpit getting ready to go when I hear a loud crash/bang noise. I look up and about 50 yards in front of me is a baggage cart tilting down in front (with associated scattered bags on the ground) because it has no front wheels anymore. I then see the tractor that had been pulling it still going at full speed heading for my aircraft with only the front cart axle still attached with associated pieces of undercarriage dragging behind creating a shower of sparks. How the hell I could hear that in the cockpit with an APU running and he couldn't I don't know. Eager to see the look on the guys face when he stops at the cargo hold, I jumped out of my seat, yelled for the FA to look and got my head out the main cabin door. There he stood, arms down at his side, facing where the cart should have been but finding only the front axle and part of the undercarriage. The confused look on his face was priceless. If it makes me a tool for laughing hysterically at him (or him for not checking on a loud bang RIGHT BEHIND HIM) then I'll just nominate myself for TOTD. We also got to send an ACARS msg. noting that we were late due to: "catastrophic structural failure of the baggage cart and ensuing hilarity".
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Old 12-31-2015 | 08:10 AM
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I love this job, always something different...

(Like last Saturday night when our FA called us and asked what she could do about the guy that just stuck his whole arm down the toilet. Yep, he got his iPhone back. His quote to her: "What are you going to do for me?" I don't think they could hear us laughing through the door.)
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Old 12-31-2015 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman
Probably not an exact fit for TOTD, but I dunno where else to put it.

Day before yesterday at DCA, I'm in cockpit getting ready to go when I hear a loud crash/bang noise. I look up and about 50 yards in front of me is a baggage cart tilting down in front (with associated scattered bags on the ground) because it has no front wheels anymore. I then see the tractor that had been pulling it still going at full speed heading for my aircraft with only the front cart axle still attached with associated pieces of undercarriage dragging behind creating a shower of sparks. How the hell I could hear that in the cockpit with an APU running and he couldn't I don't know. Eager to see the look on the guys face when he stops at the cargo hold, I jumped out of my seat, yelled for the FA to look and got my head out the main cabin door. There he stood, arms down at his side, facing where the cart should have been but finding only the front axle and part of the undercarriage. The confused look on his face was priceless. If it makes me a tool for laughing hysterically at him (or him for not checking on a loud bang RIGHT BEHIND HIM) then I'll just nominate myself for TOTD. We also got to send an ACARS msg. noting that we were late due to: "catastrophic structural failure of the baggage cart and ensuing hilarity".
Hahaha...first class equipment and first class individuals on the DCA ramp! I still remember the 340lb (+\- 30lbs), dreadlocked black dude who had a vest that said, "I AM Barack Obama!" on the back.

Riiiiight...
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Old 12-31-2015 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer
I think most of the professional pilots in this group are quietly sitting around the fire with a fine cigar and aged scotch pondering the mindless stupidity of your anti FFDO logic as stated above.

Hint: We've figured it out that there would be no difference in outcome if the Allah worshipping pilot went rogue had a gun or not.
Leave the good doctor alone. Somehow he seems to have the idiosyncrasies of our airline pilot jobs figured out from the comfort of his C172. Who are we to argue?
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Old 01-01-2016 | 02:39 AM
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The delta flight last night that checked in 4 times on a busy (in use) center freq. Stepped on someone the first two. Third was after center transmitted to an aircraft on freq. Fourth transmission was complaining about this being his fourth unanswered call.
smh
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Old 01-01-2016 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer
Hint: We've figured it out that there would be no difference in outcome if the Allah worshipping pilot went rogue had a gun or not.
Wow, that is really sad. A subset keep focusing that the pilot is at the controls of his plane. While I'm happy you seem to have figured that gem out, that item was NOT the point of my post.

Read it again closely, you might yet get it. Play out some scenarios in your head on what might happen. There is even another current thread here.

Some of these holes seem obvious but evidently it is really NOT obvious to some people, so I'll stop here, as rickair et. al. recommend.
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Old 01-01-2016 | 09:41 AM
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MOD INPUT: Let's steer clear of politics and religion, per the TOS.

Back to Tools....
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Old 01-01-2016 | 11:48 AM
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New guy here that's lurked for a long time. I'm a supervisor for a major retail concessioniare.
Last June after closing a store I was transporting a couple bank deposits to our main store and accidently dropped one.
When I got back to the bank drop I had one missing and frantically searched the concourse for it. No luck and called APD.
After being grilled and put on the hot seat they finally caught the guy on camera. Turns out a pilot with a major Regional was on the moving walkway behind me and picked it up, stuffing it in his pocket.

A warrant was issued and the guy was met at ORD as he came off his flight a couple weeks later. I would like to have seen his face when he was met by the police. Never did find out if he's now unemployed.
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