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12-25-2015, 11:35 AM
#7193
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: systems analyst
Posts: 757
Originally Posted by Albief15
You really don't add much value here. Even your Yeager quote is asinine. You have just enough knowledge of aviation to not know a damn thing about what 99% of the guys on here really do day to day.
For what its worth, a T-38 used to have an AOA indicator. It was a very nice visual backup to the tactile vibration the jet transmitted at various levels of AOA. The indicator in the F-15 was not used in tactical maneuvering, but was an invaluable tool in AHC and BFM instruction when I could show a pilot on tape review the energy state and AOA at various points in a maneuver or engagement.
Yeagher was made a saint by "The Right Stuff". Most who have worked with the guy will tell you he is an arrogant ass, and a good pilot. Bob Hoover is an outstanding pilot, and an ambassador for pilots everywhere. Be Bob Hoover. Wannabes worship Yeagher. Real professionals in the industry respect and emulate Hoover.
I don't know jack-**** about angioplasty, valve replacements, or other cardiac related matters. I would never attempt to substitute the books I've read, the aerospace physiology training I've done, or my experiences with friends or family for a consultation with an MD who was an expert in his field. As a pilot who has flown 36 years, including lots of time in GA, military fighter operations, and various airline types , I can tell you that the differences between the genres are deep, pronounced, and not subtle. When you start to make pronouncements and declarations about stuff you really don't understand, you reveal a brash overconfidence in your own experience and a condescending tone towards those who take their craft as seriously as you do.
If there was a nicer way to tell you to S-T-F-U, I'd try to do it. That's about as nicely as I can put it.
For what its worth, a T-38 used to have an AOA indicator. It was a very nice visual backup to the tactile vibration the jet transmitted at various levels of AOA. The indicator in the F-15 was not used in tactical maneuvering, but was an invaluable tool in AHC and BFM instruction when I could show a pilot on tape review the energy state and AOA at various points in a maneuver or engagement.
Yeagher was made a saint by "The Right Stuff". Most who have worked with the guy will tell you he is an arrogant ass, and a good pilot. Bob Hoover is an outstanding pilot, and an ambassador for pilots everywhere. Be Bob Hoover. Wannabes worship Yeagher. Real professionals in the industry respect and emulate Hoover.
I don't know jack-**** about angioplasty, valve replacements, or other cardiac related matters. I would never attempt to substitute the books I've read, the aerospace physiology training I've done, or my experiences with friends or family for a consultation with an MD who was an expert in his field. As a pilot who has flown 36 years, including lots of time in GA, military fighter operations, and various airline types , I can tell you that the differences between the genres are deep, pronounced, and not subtle. When you start to make pronouncements and declarations about stuff you really don't understand, you reveal a brash overconfidence in your own experience and a condescending tone towards those who take their craft as seriously as you do.
If there was a nicer way to tell you to S-T-F-U, I'd try to do it. That's about as nicely as I can put it.
By the way it's retarded that some chick tried to get her boyfriend through. We all know it. Yeager was an ass. We all know it. Bob Hoover was just a dude. We all know it. And guns have no place on a flight deck. We all know it. Are you gonna take pot shots through the peep hole? Give me a break. Anyone who has a gun on the flight deck is lacking something in their pants to compensate for.
Troll la troll la troll!
12-25-2015, 11:50 AM
#7194
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2009
Position: Downwind, headed straight for the rocks, shanghaied aboard the ship of fools.
Posts: 1,128
Originally Posted by deadseal
By the way it's retarded that some chick tried to get her boyfriend through. We all know it. Yeager was an ass. We all know it. Bob Hoover was just a dude. We all know it. And guns have no place on a flight deck. We all know it. Are you gonna take pot shots through the peep hole? Give me a break. Anyone who has a gun on the flight deck is lacking something in their pants to compensate for.
Troll la troll la troll!
Yup, end of discussion. The chick is an idiot. Merry Christmas to all of my brothers and sisters!
12-25-2015, 01:02 PM
#7195
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Posts: 3,966
Originally Posted by GucciBoy
Or maybe they're just trying to be nice. Maybe they understand a lot of dudes are stuck. Maybe they're trying to make you feel like if they had anything to do with it they'd be glad to have you next to them up front. Sorry your butt hurts. Merry Christmas.
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12-25-2015, 01:49 PM
#7196
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: Canadian Alluminum Tubing Assistant Transporter
Posts: 164
Heard this one play out on the radio the other month.
"Airline #### descend at pilot's discretion and maintain FL340."
"PD to 340, Airline ####"
*a few minutes pass by*
"Airline #### descend and maintain FL340."
"Descend and maintain FL340 now, Airline ####"
"I thought you you said pilots discretion, which means WE descend when WE WANT down to 340!"
"Airline ####, affirmative, but now I need you to descend to FL340 due to converging traffic that would be hazardous to your health."
*In the most sarcastic tone possible* "Ohhhh Okayyyy I guess we'll descend to FL340 for our healthhh...."
Way to berate the controller for doing his job...
"Airline #### descend at pilot's discretion and maintain FL340."
"PD to 340, Airline ####"
*a few minutes pass by*
"Airline #### descend and maintain FL340."
"Descend and maintain FL340 now, Airline ####"
"I thought you you said pilots discretion, which means WE descend when WE WANT down to 340!"
"Airline ####, affirmative, but now I need you to descend to FL340 due to converging traffic that would be hazardous to your health."
*In the most sarcastic tone possible* "Ohhhh Okayyyy I guess we'll descend to FL340 for our healthhh...."
Way to berate the controller for doing his job...
12-25-2015, 02:22 PM
#7197
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 5,909
Originally Posted by mooney
It was very much his business! Please explain how a non crew member, going through KCM with zero or a half assed bag check screening is not the business of ANY flight crew? If you saw a regular pax sneak thru security would that not be any of your business either? Plus as has been said it is idiots like that that screw it up for the rest of us.
12-25-2015, 03:17 PM
#7198
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2011
Posts: 174
Originally Posted by CloudShredder
Heard this one play out on the radio the other month.
"Airline #### descend at pilot's discretion and maintain FL340."
"PD to 340, Airline ####"
*a few minutes pass by*
"Airline #### descend and maintain FL340."
"Descend and maintain FL340 now, Airline ####"
"I thought you you said pilots discretion, which means WE descend when WE WANT down to 340!"
"Airline ####, affirmative, but now I need you to descend to FL340 due to converging traffic that would be hazardous to your health."
*In the most sarcastic tone possible* "Ohhhh Okayyyy I guess we'll descend to FL340 for our healthhh...."
Way to berate the controller for doing his job...
"Airline #### descend at pilot's discretion and maintain FL340."
"PD to 340, Airline ####"
*a few minutes pass by*
"Airline #### descend and maintain FL340."
"Descend and maintain FL340 now, Airline ####"
"I thought you you said pilots discretion, which means WE descend when WE WANT down to 340!"
"Airline ####, affirmative, but now I need you to descend to FL340 due to converging traffic that would be hazardous to your health."
*In the most sarcastic tone possible* "Ohhhh Okayyyy I guess we'll descend to FL340 for our healthhh...."
Way to berate the controller for doing his job...
12-25-2015, 07:18 PM
#7200
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,310
Originally Posted by CloudShredder
Amazingly it wasn't a regional either....
Last edited by PotatoChip; 12-25-2015 at 07:55 PM.
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