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Old 12-20-2015 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by encore
This is why FAs shouldn't be allowed in KCM at all. One of them is going to do something so supremely stupid one day that they're going to ruin it for everybody.
Waah! The pilot that had a discharge on the flt deck(no pun), the pilot that emptied his ammunition in the toilet in flight.
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Old 12-20-2015 | 01:30 PM
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Or FFDOs who left their gun in a terminal lavatory. Or LEOs who left a full clip of 9mm ammo in their seat. The examples are myriad.
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Old 12-20-2015 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BeechedJet
Yesterday morning we had an early show time in IAH. Only one person was ahead of us in line at KCM and it was a FA arguing with the TSA agent about how they should let her boyfriend go through this line just this once because the regular security line is so long and he'll miss his flight. She was dumbfounded and got all ****y eyed when the agent told her no.
Hey Skippy... Let us know how that coffee with Visine works for ya.

Yeah... I know it's tough to be a newbie.
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Old 12-20-2015 | 03:05 PM
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I have no idea what you just posted there.

I mean I do but...
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Old 12-20-2015 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Hey Skippy... Let us know how that coffee with Visine works for ya.

Yeah... I know it's tough to be a newbie.
So you're defending her behavior?

I cringe when captains allow the flight attendants to set the tone. I will support them and enjoy working with most but when push comes to shove the buck stops in the flight deck not the galley. If you want flight attendants to like and respect you then if they have a problem get all the information and make a decision the same as if you were in their shoes. Take an interest in who they are as people and keep them safe.

I disagree that it will be a flight attendant or pilot that ruins KCM. It will be an idiot. And the example stated was an idiot.

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Old 12-21-2015 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by labbats
So you're defending her behavior?

I cringe when captains allow the flight attendants to set the tone. I will support them and enjoy working with most but when push comes to shove the buck stops in the flight deck not the galley. If you want flight attendants to like and respect you then if they have a problem get all the information and make a decision the same as if you were in their shoes. Take an interest in who they are as people and keep them safe.

I disagree that it will be a flight attendant or pilot that ruins KCM. It will be an idiot. And the example stated was an idiot.
Not a flight deck issue labbats. It was w KCM line issue that pushed Skippy's button to the point indicating it was solely an issue with F/As. Not defending or condoning the behavior of the F/A. Frankly it was none of Skippy's business as he works for an airline and not for TSA which dealt with the issue in a manner they felt appropriate at the time.

The crewmwmber has every right to submit a letter of complaint to the TSA with copies to the Airline. Likewise the TSA agent has the right to submit a letter of complaint to his/her supervisor against the F/A as well.

At the end of The day, I will wager the issue took no more than 3 minutes the resolve. Unfortunately F/As and cockpit crews are not exempt from inappropriate conduct... but again their are remedies to the bone heads.
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Old 12-21-2015 | 02:28 AM
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You're on guard.
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Old 12-21-2015 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Captain I flew with today who said, "I just don't understand why guys continue to go to Spirit when places like United and AA are hiring. They are desperate for pilots. That's just stupid."

After ten minutes of discussion and bringing up many obvious points, he just said, "Whatever, I'm not in the job market, but those guys are stupid."

Yet another prime example of ignorance and this bewildering attidude that if legacies are hiring you can just waltz yourself right on in the front door...
Sounds like the cousin of the mainline pilot who looks at the regional guy on the jumpseat and says "So you got your stuff in with mainline? When you gonna come over?" As if it's as simple as the regional guy just walking into the chief pilot's office and saying "I'm a pilot! I'm here to fly, just point me to the gate!". After some very long 6-leg days in and out of some of the most effed up airspace in the country, it would take every fiber of my being not to come back with a doe-eyed and sarcastic "Gee mister, do you think I should!? I'm a real good pilot, honest!"
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Old 12-21-2015 | 10:04 AM
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the pilot in ORD this morning arguing with the TSA because they took his violin.
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Old 12-23-2015 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Or FFDOs who left their gun in a terminal lavatory. Or LEOs who left a full clip of 9mm ammo in their seat. The examples are myriad.
You are correct. And... only a matter of time before some entirely legally cockpit carrying "sympathizer" brings some goodies through KCM for his friends.

FFDO fantasy heroism is fantasy.
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