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05-15-2015, 05:43 AM
#6181
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Originally Posted by eman
There was a report on tv last month I think it was 20/20...companies on the Internet are able to give (sell) certificates, id's and vests that make them appear to be service dogs under the guise of emotional support pets. They can pretty much get any animal on so people can take their pets into the cabin without a cage. And it's all legal.
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Emotional support pets can be anything and are generally allowed in places other animals may not be such as restaurants. Service animals are highly trained and individually certified to behave in a safe manner in pretty much all situations.
Nobody can ban service animals. Airlines could ban emotional support pets who are not properly certified as actual service animals...but they just kind of wink at the pax, collect their fares, and let the crews deal with it.
05-15-2015, 06:35 AM
#6182
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
I agree, in my experience, I've witnessed the "Jetway Miracle" enough times to lose some faith in humanity. From RSW, FLL, and PBI, 15-20 people board with wheel chairs and after deplaning, all the pax are gone and 17 wheelchairs and their pushers are still in the jetway looking for their pax.
05-15-2015, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DustoffVT
Ha Ha this happened to me just yesterday. Lady sits down next to me on a -145 with a service dog of unclear purpose. Along comes a United mainline F/A (in uniform) with her dog, the only seat left being against the bulkhead. She starts pestering all the people around her to switch, her dog is trying desperately to sniff the service dog, and nobody really wants to move. 5 minute delay ensues until finally a dude in a full length fur coat switches with her from all the way at the other end of the Kay-bin (as pronounced by the TSA F/A).
You can't make this stuff up.
You can't make this stuff up.
05-15-2015, 08:49 AM
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05-15-2015, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
05-15-2015, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
During a short trip to my local JCPenney, what do I see but a self-absorbed twit holding her tiny foofie dog. Guess she thinks she's at an airport and can do whatever she wants. Sad that no one enforces rules anymore.
05-15-2015, 02:10 PM
#6188
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Nobody can ban service animals. Airlines could ban emotional support pets who are not properly certified as actual service animals...but they just kind of wink at the pax, collect their fares, and let the crews deal with it.
I'm sure that the airlines could get more legal leeway but the "black eye" they would get from the histrionic lawsuits that would follow is not worth it. I'm frankly surprised they allow non-service animals in the cabin.
05-15-2015, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cardiomd
Not quite true but almost true. There are very much "commonsense" rules and exceptions. For example, service dogs are allowed in the hospital, but not on our OR floors, chemo rooms where immunosuppressed patients may be, etc. They can't be where food is being prepared.
I'm sure that the airlines could get more legal leeway but the "black eye" they would get from the histrionic lawsuits that would follow is not worth it. I'm frankly surprised they allow non-service animals in the cabin.
I'm sure that the airlines could get more legal leeway but the "black eye" they would get from the histrionic lawsuits that would follow is not worth it. I'm frankly surprised they allow non-service animals in the cabin.
05-15-2015, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
You're not permitted to ask what one's disability is, soooo, the loophole is huge in the ADA. If someone claims they need a "support animal" to fly, they get away with it.
Imagine the passenger experience of being asked by the GA then FA then purser "what's wrong with them?" in a suspicious fashion.
That being said just eliminate the whole spectacle of special handling IMO. If you can't walk the length of a plane in a reasonable time, you probably shouldn't fly.
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