I'm thinking that it's that low first-year pay perhaps? I'm holding out for Virgin America to get into AS and B6 also--so are many of my acquaintances. NK and F9 come after due to pay.

What constitutes "a lot"? My class of twelve had one corporate jet 135 guy. Everyone else was regional or heavy air cargo 121.

Don't get me wrong, there are many things that need to improve here, but I don't see how we've gotten to the point where we are scraping the bottom of the barrel. There are still lots of good guys and gals coming online here.

Bottom of the barrel? So in your hierarchy of pilots regional FOs with <3000 hours are better than corporate pilots? Gotcha

Hmmmmm, 16 years 121, 21 total, Ive been applying for several windows and nada. Its not a lack of interest, its the wonderful HR model that has taken over pilot hiring.

Nope, I was responding to the implication they are hiring more 135 pilots because of a lack of 121 applicants.

Besides, my class had one regional FO who did not have prior 135 PIC, and he worked for three regionals over the past 10 years. If there are <3000 hour regional FO's getting hired here, I'm genuinely happy for them. However, they are not an example of the average new-hire...yet.

Tuesday, European aerospace giant Airbus EADSY -0.25% announced it had drummed up 1,036 plane orders last year, figure that has the company soundly beating rival Boeing BA -0.56% in 2015. Pushing Airbus’s total order backlog to a record-setting 6,787 aircraft, the new orders mean the company has roughly $1 trillion dollars worth of new airplanes slated for delivery over the next decade.

If you think Spirit's hiring is based on an "HR model" you're sorely mistaken.

And Spirit pays an even smaller price to have you fly their pax around. Lol

I hope no one is coming here thinking that we will have a new contract soon. Management made it clear they plan to let mediation takes its course, which means they'll drag it out as long as possible.

How much is training pay? Single or double occupancy during training? Is there AQP?

Thanks in advance.

$1750/month. Single occupancy. No AQP unfortunately.