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Well, they didn't flow 35. They put 35 additional pilots in the queue. There are currently about 100 in the queue now, the earliest ones of which were selected to flow last fall.

I would love it if they flowed more than 30 in February, but they haven't yet.

Selections don't equal flows. They can select 115 pilots but only flow 10, for example. Selections are just guys "in the pool" for lack of a better phrase. When AA calls is the real test.

If by "buddy passes" you mean for friends and family, it's 16 per year. For you, your spouse, your children, and your parents it's unlimited passes per year and a higher boarding priority on all AA/Eagle flights.

That can't be right in any way. Where are you getting this info? Every captain I've flown with who is about to flow says it's a month out they got the selection.

Yes they haven't sent 35 yet, but step 1 to flowing more is selecting more.

Go look back at the Sep-2-16 mec news blast and at the bottom it will show you what he is talking about. There is a "pool" where pilots wait to flow. They stopped posting the pool numbers but they had it in the past.

I find it sad that when very positive news is announced, you have people who find it necessary to post sometimes false and inflammatory information about Envoy.

We just announced that 35 were selected to flow. How is that bad?

Let's review. Envoy has sent 684 pilots to AA via the flow since it restarted. Another 100 guys are in the pool to flow. That's 784 pilots who have hit the career jackpot.

Envoy continues to take delivery of E-175's and I would look for an announcement in the near future regarding additional 175's. LGA opened last month and we have another base looming.

We have the largest flow percentage of any of the wholly owneds. 2.5 year upgrade/less than 6 to flow is right on schedule. In fact, the 2.5 year upgrade may soon translate to a 2 year upgrade. Even better than the projections. Hiring bonuses and pay that meets or exceeds all other carriers. And we are hiring the most of any other regional carrier right now. 70 plus new hires each month are now the norm.

My question is. What's so bad about any of that?

Though I wouldn't call AA hitting the jackpot, this is positive news. I think we are just trying to post real numbers. Typically, you flow shortly after selected. There IS some lag time. Selecting 35 IS an indication that more than 30 might be going. Great news! I am cautiously optimistic here.

Now, let's see how habitable we can make this Envoy job until we flow or go to our major airline of choice!

So we are going to have 35 Envoy pilots start class at AA in February?

What information do you consider false? And information do you consider inflammatory?

35 pilots have been selected for flow. AAG could have easily selected zero since we already have over 60 in the pool now. They may not flow exactly 35 but it's very possible this could happen.

Just immediately discounting the selection of 35 is degrading to the process. Comments such as, selecting 35 is a lot different than actually flowing 35. It's obvious that AAG is honoring the flow above and beyond what is required.

Why so negative? Who have you been flying with that has turned you against the company? It's obvious that your outlook has changed in looking at your posts last year. You, in fact, were calling out people who were deriding the company at one time.