Training issues at SKW
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Industry leading? Is the training, train to proficiency? Is there the ability to get a different instructor? Is there the ability for a union rep to observe a training session? Is there a training review board? Those are all things that are standard at most unionized airlines.
When will you get enough SkyHating?
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Industry leading? Is the training, train to proficiency? Is there the ability to get a different instructor? Is there the ability for a union rep to observe a training session? Is there a training review board? Those are all things that are standard at most unionized airlines.
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I don't think you actually disagree with me that the company knows exactly how much time and money they are spending on training. They don't need any coordination to run a cost benefit analysis.
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So not really relevant to the discussion of new hire training.
My airline offers some contractual recourse for people that fail but there’s no training oversight and AFAIK no one sitting in watching sim lessons.
I’d pro-union but you guys are doing it a disservice by making it seem like a union is a panacea for all these problems. At the regional level they seem to have very little real power.
My airline offers some contractual recourse for people that fail but there’s no training oversight and AFAIK no one sitting in watching sim lessons.
I’d pro-union but you guys are doing it a disservice by making it seem like a union is a panacea for all these problems. At the regional level they seem to have very little real power.
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So not really relevant to the discussion of new hire training.
My airline offers some contractual recourse for people that fail but there’s no training oversight and AFAIK no one sitting in watching sim lessons.
I’d pro-union but you guys are doing it a disservice by making it seem like a union is a panacea for all these problems. At the regional level they seem to have very little real power.
My airline offers some contractual recourse for people that fail but there’s no training oversight and AFAIK no one sitting in watching sim lessons.
I’d pro-union but you guys are doing it a disservice by making it seem like a union is a panacea for all these problems. At the regional level they seem to have very little real power.
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Interesting posts, thanks everyone.
I am 1500+ fixed wing, 250 king air and the rest is mostly pipeline patrol. I have no instructor ratings and don’t want any. I would say the majority of the class were CFI, and most didn’t even have enough time to make the minimums at SKW, they were having to use the sim time to get to the magical numbers.
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I had a similar experience to the OP on the CRJ. My sim partner didn’t make it through systems and I struggled. Call outs are hard to practice on your own and others were busy practicing with their sim partners. I observed others sim sessions that were much smoother than mine. I had a different instructor every day so poor continuity. Had the late sim session 8pm to 2 am which was tiring since noise in the hotel started at 6 am and sleep was difficult. Not having a sim partner meant not watching someone else go through the maneuvers to learn from their mistakes. Ended up using up my extra sim sessions and made dumb mistakes in the Manevers Validation so was told by the examiner I should be good with a training session then retest. I got a call from the training manager and he said I used up my sessions so it was the end of the line. Was told I should come back in 6 mos because I was really close and was the kind of person they wanted at SW. Most of my instructors were great, one was terrible and I had the examiner that was the gossip at the water cooler as the toughest. I’m not one to make excuses and I studied my butt off but couldn’t pull it off. Undecided if I will return at SW.
Thanks for this, I was in a very similar situation.
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