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Old 01-12-2019, 11:05 AM   #51  
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To be clear, at SKW this is not a choice. It was all bid for and if you wanted a certain time frame you took whoever was on that timeframe.
Exactly. We had a lot of cadets in our class who got first pick of sim time and partners. I was positioned near the back of the class and had a choice of 8 to 2am in SLC or 8 to 2am in Atlanta with no choice of WHO my sim partner was. I think overall SW training is excellent but as one instructor told me I had all of the cards stacked against me. They really do want you to succeed
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Old 01-12-2019, 11:49 AM   #52  
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I'm no expert, and so far I've only flown part 135, piston and now jet.
I understand the contrast can be huge coming from a CFI environment or even coming from any GA job.

The truth is that even though the job itself is "easy" once you're comfortable with the aircraft and the operation, the transition can be pure hell. I still have nightmares about my initial at flightsafety lol.

Each person is different, and some people need to man up and grow a thicker skin, facts. Some people maybe had bad luck too, but that's life. If someone is studying for 7h a day and can't memorize systems, then try studying for 8h, it is what it is. If your sim partner is really bad, oh well.... You'll have to do your part and 50% of his haha, which is also how things work in real life sometimes.
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Old 01-12-2019, 11:57 AM   #53  
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This was in part why our pay rose mid agreement while classes were full. We now have people here who should never have made it through training.
Hard to believe they were paying something like $22/hour about 4 years ago.
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:22 PM   #54  
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Hard to believe they were paying something like $22/hour about 4 years ago.
All of the regionals were paying something like that at that time.
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Hard to believe they were paying something like $22/hour about 4 years ago.
Every single regionalís 1st year pay was about the same during that time period. Some, yes wholly owned and union regionals were actually less. Mesa, an ALPA carrier had the worst compensation next to Great Lakes (RIP).
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The truth is that even though the job itself is "easy" once you're comfortable with the aircraft and the operation, the transition can be pure hell. I still have nightmares about my initial at flightsafety lol.
This is true. The first turn in the barrel is the hardest. Subsequent 121 events are generally easier, but if the type is significantly different, it can still be sketchy (prop to jet, steam to glass, or vice versa). Foreigners often struggle because they are used to long drawn out and detailed programs... in the US you have to drink from the firehose and figure out what's important.

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Each person is different, and some people need to man up and grow a thicker skin, facts. Some people maybe had bad luck too, but that's life. If someone is studying for 7h a day and can't memorize systems, then try studying for 8h, it is what it is. If your sim partner is really bad, oh well.... You'll have to do your part and 50% of his haha, which is also how things work in real life sometimes.
This too. Approach each event as though its going to be a real biatch... if it's not, you'll be ahead of the curve. Also people who think they've "arrived" and expect a 12 week victory lap are going to get hit by the train.
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Are folks actually fired for not getting through training? At my airline, folks who don't get through training are told that they won't get through and offered the ability to resign immediately. The pilot would still have to explain that to a future employer, but the airline won't have to say "we fired them" during a background check.
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Are folks actually fired for not getting through training? At my airline, folks who don't get through training are told that they won't get through and offered the ability to resign immediately. The pilot would still have to explain that to a future employer, but the airline won't have to say "we fired them" during a background check.
From what I've heard the new manager of CRJ training wants the termination to show on their record.



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If you donít make it through training there are a ton a senecioís. Did you actually fail a ďcheckingĒ event. PRIA.. did you use up your extra hrs and never made it to a checking event? Most people resign when they hit the max extra hours.. new Training manager is a nice guy... no black helicopters notamed north of F taxiway in SLC...
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From what I've heard the new manager of CRJ training wants the termination to show on their record.
Thatís interesting. As far as I know, I resigned. I have to check and see if it was recorded as a PRIA event. I didnít actually bust a check ride but failed a Maneuvers validation. Regardless if I applied again at another airline I would explain what happened.
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