Originally Posted by Floy

I can say however, without doubt that no pilot has failed out for lack of being given a real opportunity to succeed, within a policy that was never so giving in the history of part 121 airline training.

Originally Posted by Blackwing

Eh, one guy in my class was not given a fair shake at ALL. He got sick in the middle of sim to the point where he spent a couple days in the hospital, then when he came back it was apparent that his previous instructor had not followed the training syllabus. He wasn’t recommended for the PV and the company told him he’d have to roll back to the next class to get additional sim time—and he would have to repeat ground school with them. He passed on that generous offer and at my suggestion called Mesa, where he did fine.

Originally Posted by Blackwing

Eh, one guy in my class was not given a fair shake at ALL. He got sick in the middle of sim to the point where he spent a couple days in the hospital, then when he came back it was apparent that his previous instructor had not followed the training syllabus. He wasn’t recommended for the PV and the company told him he’d have to roll back to the next class to get additional sim time—and he would have to repeat ground school with them. He passed on that generous offer and at my suggestion called Mesa, where he did fine.

Originally Posted by Blackwing

Eh, one guy in my class was not given a fair shake at ALL. He got sick in the middle of sim to the point where he spent a couple days in the hospital, then when he came back it was apparent that his previous instructor had not followed the training syllabus. He wasn’t recommended for the PV and the company told him he’d have to roll back to the next class to get additional sim time—and he would have to repeat ground school with them. He passed on that generous offer and at my suggestion called Mesa, where he did fine.

Originally Posted by GrayFlyer

10 year military helo guy here moving to KC-135s after I leave Active Duty at the end of the year. I've heard of the occasional helo guy struggling in KC-135 training, though I don't know of the specifics (If I had to guess, it'd be adjusting to the speed at which things happen, not systems). How have your ex-military rotary classmates done with the SkyWest training?

I have an engineering undergrad so I tend to overthink stuff, but some of the posts in this thread seem like red flags that might steer somebody away from SkyWest while other posts make it sound like great training. I get it, it's the internet, but what's the ground truth? I am very much unaware of what airline training is like and obviously everybody is coming from a different background, but reading the back-and-forth here makes it hard for an outsider to get an idea of how it really is. Is there a general consensus as to what's causing guys to not make it? [MENTION=52685]PhotoFlyer[/MENTION] what's your flying background?

Originally Posted by Blackwing

Eh, one guy in my class was not given a fair shake at ALL. He got sick in the middle of sim to the point where he spent a couple days in the hospital, then when he came back it was apparent that his previous instructor had not followed the training syllabus. He wasn’t recommended for the PV and the company told him he’d have to roll back to the next class to get additional sim time—and he would have to repeat ground school with them. He passed on that generous offer and at my suggestion called Mesa, where he did fine.

Originally Posted by Cefiro

Something about this doesn’t sound right. Why would he have to redo ground school if he already passed the SV? Also, you take the PV before you ever go into the sim so why would he need additional sim sessions if he was never recommended for the PV?

Originally Posted by rickair7777

Sounds like a fair shake to me... plenty of extra time (paid too) to get his program together and things right that maybe he did wrong the first time around. As opposed to trying to bandaid a hot mess and force it through the system.

In the old days many folks (at many airlines) who were dropped for struggling in sim would have killed for an opportunity like that.

That dude cut off his nose to spite his face... now he can enjoy mesa for years to come

Originally Posted by Nevjets

These are the types of situations that Training Review Boards are made for. A committee of people from both sides (management and union) look at the facts of the situation in concert with the trainee and come up with a plan that all agree on, not forced upon the trainee as a take it or leave it deal.