dera

Now when ALPA is not 100% DL ran, things might actually change. I have high hopes for Captain Joe DePete and his term.

Nevjets

This is why I try to make the case that a union, ALPA in particular, is more than just a pay package. A union advocates for ALL aspects of an airline pilots’ career. So when it comes to safety and security initiatives especially, ALPA is the only pilot union to go with, not to mention aeromedical and a myriad of other areas.



That’s a really good point. A pilot size like Skywest would get an executive Vice President at ALPA National. They would be the only regional with their own representative at that level.



This is the biggest misconception with ALPA. Each ALPA pilot group is represented by their own MEC elected only by their own pilots. Their MEC is the only entity with fiduciary responsibility to their pilots. No other MEC or national can compel any other MEC to anything, period. Jus like the Skywest MEC wouldn’t be able to tell any other MEC to do something they don’t want. Mainline MECs decide what scope they want to negotiate, no one else. If they won’t or can’t scope in all their flying, some of their airlines’ flying is put out to bid. Then regional management comes in and submits bids for this flying. Mainline management chooses the winner(s). Now the regional MEC, who to this point has had no say on what gets outsourced or who wins the bid, negotiates with their regional management on the terms and pay of this flying. Mainline MEC cannot tell the regional MEC not to negotiated for $200/hr pay rates or anything else.


No conflict of interest anywhere in that process.

Blackwing

That first question is one for the training department. All I know is that was the deal they offered him.

And my class (those of us sent to ATL, anyway) did all our procedures training in the sim.

Blackwing

I suspect you might be under a mistaken assumption or two as to how ALPA works. ALPA National does not do the negotiating for their member carriers, the member carriers’ pilot groups do. ALPA provides the training for those pilot negotiators and the legal and financial analysis experts to back them up. There is no conflict of interest.

ALPA is in fact the best choice for SkyWest pilots because of its size. Think of ALPA as a pooled resource. Lots of members = more resources, all of which would be available to the SkyWest pilot group.

OOnewb

How about non-technical issues in training at OO? Do people routinely get sent home for uniform/dress code violations or for not being sufficiently respectful of their instructors? Or for visible tattoos, being 30 seconds late to class, etc.?

wrxpilot

For most of what you wrote, I certainly hope so. For being late, no. I guess if you showed up habitually late they might.

OOnewb

Do they not use the break timer for OO pilots in training? Where it counts down from 15, 10, or 5 minutes and you have to be in the door by the time it hits 00:00 or you get written up?

captive apple

Please don’t suggest this.

amcnd

I have no idea what your even talking about!!! (But OO flight attendant new hires do...)

zondaracer

The environment in new hire class is welcoming. If you are late, you owe $5 for the end of class pizza party. Same for having a cellphone go off in class.

I never saw anyone who was not dressed correctly or didn’t meet grooming standards. There was a guy who went to upgrade class with a man bun. He definitely got in trouble, since he had already been talked to on the line.