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Old 01-17-2021 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
It’s ironic that 2/3 of the airlines in their recruitment program only operate aircraft that will be “a thing of the past under any scenario
Are you sure that's exactly what he said? Also, Mesa doesn't fly exclusively for United.
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Old 01-17-2021 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
Pretty sure they said the same thing about XJT. They got them, then they lost them, then they were let go. They could just as easily tell SkyWest and Republic that they need to have pilots only fly one contract to keep the United owned 175’s that they operate. They could then offer Aviate to them just like they do Mesa and avoid the cost of another shuffle. UAX is going to go through some potentially big changes in the next few years. I wouldn’t want to put money on any option since United has a history of saying one thing, and doing another. All anyone can do is sit, watch, and hope that they don’t draw the short straw.
That is hilarious that you think that United would even consider asking SkyWest and Republic to drop their other contracts in order to keep flying the 175's United owns.
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Old 01-17-2021 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BRJPilot
Are you sure that's exactly what he said? Also, Mesa doesn't fly exclusively for United.
It was a spoof about when Kirby and Munoz said early in the pandemic that the 50 seaters would be gone under any scenario, yet 2/3 of the Aviate airlines that are left fly only 50 seaters.

Mesa doesn’t fly exclusively for United, but from what I understand, their pilots fly for one contract at a time. Only those flying exclusively for United can be in Aviate. If they were to bid over to an American side, they’d no longer be qualified to be in the Aviate program.
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Old 01-17-2021 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by brockenspectre
That is hilarious that you think that United would even consider asking SkyWest and Republic to drop their other contracts in order to keep flying the 175's United owns.
That’s not what I meant. I meant that if their pilots flew exclusively for each contract they would be qualified for Aviate just like Mesa. SkyWest pilots flying exclusively for United would qualify, those flying exclusively for another company wouldn’t. Personally, I don’t expect SkyWest or Republic to want that. They are big and will be around for a long time and don’t really have recruitment problems.
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Old 01-17-2021 | 08:01 PM
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Times are tough Jim, let’s torpedo our economies of scale so people who don’t work here yet can “Aviate”.
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Old 01-18-2021 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by captive apple
Times are tough Jim, let’s torpedo our economies of scale so people who don’t work here yet can “Aviate”.
That’s why I don’t see SkyWest in Aviate. Allowing pilots to fly multiple contracts is much more efficient than restricting them to just one. Aviate is just a carrot on a stick to attract new pilots to UAX companies. Neither SkyWest or Republic had recruiting problems, so they really don’t need that carrot.
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Old 01-18-2021 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
It was a spoof about when Kirby and Munoz said early in the pandemic that the 50 seaters would be gone under any scenario, yet 2/3 of the Aviate airlines that are left fly only 50 seaters.

Mesa doesn’t fly exclusively for United, but from what I understand, their pilots fly for one contract at a time. Only those flying exclusively for United can be in Aviate. If they were to bid over to an American side, they’d no longer be qualified to be in the Aviate program.
Come Feb this will be true of Mesa pilots. However, prior to that the CRJ pilots could and did fly for both AA and UA.

Crj pilot badges show both carriers.
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Old 01-19-2021 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
It was a spoof about when Kirby and Munoz said early in the pandemic that the 50 seaters would be gone under any scenario, yet 2/3 of the Aviate airlines that are left fly only 50 seaters.

Mesa doesn’t fly exclusively for United, but from what I understand, their pilots fly for one contract at a time. Only those flying exclusively for United can be in Aviate. If they were to bid over to an American side, they’d no longer be qualified to be in the Aviate program.
Well, your “spoof” incorrectly paraphrased his statement. He left enough wiggle room in the actual statement where one could gather that 50 seaters would be around, albeit in reduced numbers, depending on how everything plays out. And has been pointed out, Mesa CRJ pilots did not fly specific contracts and that won’t be the case until next month.
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Old 01-19-2021 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by piloto2
Well, your “spoof” incorrectly paraphrased his statement. He left enough wiggle room in the actual statement where one could gather that 50 seaters would be around, albeit in reduced numbers, depending on how everything plays out. And has been pointed out, Mesa CRJ pilots did not fly specific contracts and that won’t be the case until next month.
Why are MESA pilots just now being locked to a specific mainline carrier? will they be able to be reflowed to the other mainline carrier if the company needs it? Will they only get bennies on the carrier they support now?
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Old 01-19-2021 | 08:21 PM
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Ten bucks and the slow realization that you once swam in your dad’s nut says MT resurfaces at American.
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