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#1511
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Welcome to the world of airline hiring. What is that over 100 years of hiring?
Sometimes you've got to be a NASA astronaut with a PhD and Space shuttle time to get hired, and sometimes there is an Ab initio training program with zero to hero in the right seat of a 767 as a 23year old and the left seat of a MD-80 within a year of being at a major.
I would hazard a guess that more current airline pilots were hired with their ATP than were hired without. Enjoy the suck, and spend the money.
Sometimes you've got to be a NASA astronaut with a PhD and Space shuttle time to get hired, and sometimes there is an Ab initio training program with zero to hero in the right seat of a 767 as a 23year old and the left seat of a MD-80 within a year of being at a major.
I would hazard a guess that more current airline pilots were hired with their ATP than were hired without. Enjoy the suck, and spend the money.
#1512
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Is anyone here an actual recruiter? I assume they’d be able to tell you the “new and improved” hiring mins at SkyWest. I’d recommend you add the rating to your resume, but what the hell do I know. I’m that guy who walked on property with no more than 950 total hours of flight time, zero turbine, no CTP-ATP.
If you’re glancing at your potential competition, it’s made up of 1,000’s of pilots on the street with ATP 121 turbine time. The rating may help you get in the pool sooner, but as I stated prior, you’re asking the wrong group of guys and gals.
I think it’s safe to say SkyWest will no longer be paying for CTP’s.
If you’re glancing at your potential competition, it’s made up of 1,000’s of pilots on the street with ATP 121 turbine time. The rating may help you get in the pool sooner, but as I stated prior, you’re asking the wrong group of guys and gals.
I think it’s safe to say SkyWest will no longer be paying for CTP’s.
This is what you have to look at: Once hiring starts back up at the majors, hiring mins at the Regionals will quickly go back to ATP/R-ATP mins. Not until then unfortunately, there will not be enough up and out movement at the Regionals for hiring mins to get that low.
#1513
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No numbers whatsoever out there. Other than C5 saying they would only consider those with ATPs and type rating in their aircraft preferred when they started hiring back up.
This is what you have to look at: Once hiring starts back up at the majors, hiring mins at the Regionals will quickly go back to ATP/R-ATP mins. Not until then unfortunately, there will not be enough up and out movement at the Regionals for hiring mins to get that low.
This is what you have to look at: Once hiring starts back up at the majors, hiring mins at the Regionals will quickly go back to ATP/R-ATP mins. Not until then unfortunately, there will not be enough up and out movement at the Regionals for hiring mins to get that low.
#1514
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I am still considering whether to pay out of pocket for it or not. I am leaning towards no. If they are going to require CTP courses completed prior to hire then there are going to be a ton of furloughed guys getting hired in front of me that already have ATPs done anyways.
If your school is paying for it definitely take it.
I think panam in Vegas was down to 2500 for a ctp course. Then probably another 1-2k for the multi rental and checkride fee. So I figure it's a 4500 investment that may or may not move me up in the hiring line. It's still not a type rating or initial training which I am going to have to do yet another checkride for.
My guess is by the time I am competitive for hire (at R-ATP minimums) the "shortage" at the regionals will have to return and they will be paying for me to take the course like they were for the past few years.
If your school is paying for it definitely take it.
I think panam in Vegas was down to 2500 for a ctp course. Then probably another 1-2k for the multi rental and checkride fee. So I figure it's a 4500 investment that may or may not move me up in the hiring line. It's still not a type rating or initial training which I am going to have to do yet another checkride for.
My guess is by the time I am competitive for hire (at R-ATP minimums) the "shortage" at the regionals will have to return and they will be paying for me to take the course like they were for the past few years.
#1515
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I’m going to go with wait. The less check rides you have to do in general aviation the better in my opinion. Too many ego’s, you seem to train to the individual evaluators standards on top of the practical test standards in GA. In a part 121 training environment they have an incentive to pass you. In my opinion, GA check rides are more of a roll of the dice for pink slips.
While I agree that GA checkrides are wildly different in different parts of the US or bewteen DPE’s the CTP course isn’t a checkride in any sense of the imagination. You would have to try very hard to “fail” it. I’m not even sure if you can.
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#1517
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
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yes, I would have to do it in a piston twin with a local DPE. I think I am going to wait it out and see what skywest does when an actual new hire class gets hired.
#1518
Action Multi Ratings and Traverse Air are two well-respected outfits that specialize in ATP ratings. The instructors have a plan, and the DPEs know and work from that plan. They might be a better route than working with a DPE who does an ATP once or twice a decade.
#1519
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Aviate
I realize this may be different than what the current topic of this forum is though I didn't want to make a completely new thread to ask. I also may be ridiculed about this question as it may not be the time to think about something like this, though it is something that will apply in the long term.
Does anyone feel that SkyWest may be added to the list of UAX carriers to fly for when in Aviate? Of the three current ones, two of those futures seem dicey in the long run with their fleet type and Aviate is a long term United plan. So does it seem logical that SkyWest would be added? Is it something SkyWest itself would/(n't) want? It's already a Delta Propel carrier. Just a question to think about for the long term of United hiring.
Does anyone feel that SkyWest may be added to the list of UAX carriers to fly for when in Aviate? Of the three current ones, two of those futures seem dicey in the long run with their fleet type and Aviate is a long term United plan. So does it seem logical that SkyWest would be added? Is it something SkyWest itself would/(n't) want? It's already a Delta Propel carrier. Just a question to think about for the long term of United hiring.
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