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07-18-2023 | 11:09 AM
#5101
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Hi everyone. Looking for some advice/opnions. I am currently building flying about 90hours/month as a Lear 60 SIC. Goal is to get to a legacy ASAP. I have an app in with SkyWest and they just reached out to interview. Should I stay here at my 135, where I get worked like a dog and have no time off and no time to spend with my gf, and come out of pocket to get an ATP so I can try to go to an ULCC? Or should I jump to SkyWest if given the option? Will I be delaying going to a legacy by jumping to a regional first just to then try to go to an ULCC? Would love to hear any thoughts.
07-18-2023 | 02:41 PM
#5102
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You’ll get about 80-90 hours of SIC block per month, with 11-12 days off per month, at SkyWest. You also just show up and fly. There is no other administrative or flight planning work you need to do in the 121 environment. If that sounds like a better deal to you, I would take it. I’m not sure it will make any difference toward your goal of working for a legacy, but passing 121 training in a large jet cannot hurt.
IMO he should stay where he is at, fork out the 4k for atp/ctp, take the atp checkride in a multi piston, and go to the ULCC or direct to legacy
07-19-2023 | 10:48 AM
#5103
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got to account training time into this as well. Expect to be not getting 90 hours a month for 2-3 months. Then sit reserve where you might fly 90 but your QOL is going to suck
IMO he should stay where he is at, fork out the 4k for atp/ctp, take the atp checkride in a multi piston, and go to the ULCC or direct to legacy
IMO he should stay where he is at, fork out the 4k for atp/ctp, take the atp checkride in a multi piston, and go to the ULCC or direct to legacy
07-19-2023 | 07:30 PM
#5104
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Hi everyone. Looking for some advice/opnions. I am currently building flying about 90hours/month as a Lear 60 SIC. Goal is to get to a legacy ASAP. I have an app in with SkyWest and they just reached out to interview. Should I stay here at my 135, where I get worked like a dog and have no time off and no time to spend with my gf, and come out of pocket to get an ATP so I can try to go to an ULCC? Or should I jump to SkyWest if given the option? Will I be delaying going to a legacy by jumping to a regional first just to then try to go to an ULCC? Would love to hear any thoughts.
07-20-2023 | 03:26 AM
#5105
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Hi everyone. Looking for some advice/opnions. I am currently building flying about 90hours/month as a Lear 60 SIC. Goal is to get to a legacy ASAP. I have an app in with SkyWest and they just reached out to interview. Should I stay here at my 135, where I get worked like a dog and have no time off and no time to spend with my gf, and come out of pocket to get an ATP so I can try to go to an ULCC? Or should I jump to SkyWest if given the option? Will I be delaying going to a legacy by jumping to a regional first just to then try to go to an ULCC? Would love to hear any thoughts.
07-20-2023 | 08:11 AM
#5106
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“false”. I know lots of “upgraders” that left before or just after upgrade training to a Major. And few to DL with only 4 week wait for class.
07-20-2023 | 08:27 AM
#5107
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Has it happened? Sure. But it's the exception and not the norm. More so today than it was 2-3 years ago. Mainline is metering hiring from Skywest, and that is real. Peace out.
07-20-2023 | 08:48 AM
#5108
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Ahhhh yes..."Lots". Was this during the hiring boom 2-3 years back? Did these individuals happen to check off any DEI boxes? Connections at mainline? Move from a wholly owned carrier to the competition? I expect those answers to all come back as a "No" as per the standard protocol for saving face online.
Has it happened? Sure. But it's the exception and not the norm. More so today than it was 2-3 years ago. Mainline is metering hiring from Skywest, and that is real. Peace out.
Has it happened? Sure. But it's the exception and not the norm. More so today than it was 2-3 years ago. Mainline is metering hiring from Skywest, and that is real. Peace out.
10% of the upgrade class already get hired before showing up to upgrade. Another 10% leave just after. Most classes end up being 6-8 students yet 20 were scheduled. There is no need to worry right now about getting out to a Major. I think it will only get better for pilots this fall…
07-22-2023 | 05:11 PM
#5109
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Ahhhh yes..."Lots". Was this during the hiring boom 2-3 years back? Did these individuals happen to check off any DEI boxes? Connections at mainline? Move from a wholly owned carrier to the competition? I expect those answers to all come back as a "No" as per the standard protocol for saving face online.
Has it happened? Sure. But it's the exception and not the norm. More so today than it was 2-3 years ago. Mainline is metering hiring from Skywest, and that is real. Peace out.
Has it happened? Sure. But it's the exception and not the norm. More so today than it was 2-3 years ago. Mainline is metering hiring from Skywest, and that is real. Peace out.
07-23-2023 | 04:06 AM
#5110
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10% of the upgrade class already get hired before showing up to upgrade. Another 10% leave just after. Most classes end up being 6-8 students yet 20 were scheduled. There is no need to worry right now about getting out to a Major. I think it will only get better for pilots this fall…
-DAL, AA, and UAL have hiring quotas for the number of SKW pilots they can pick up each month
-Legacies would like to see minimum two years on property before consideration*
-Pilots are leaving for ULCC's and getting calls from mainline in 3-6 months
-*Key exceptions being individuals that meet criteria such as being a veteran, checking off DEI boxes, solid connections at mainline, etc
From my contacts at Peidmont and Endeavor, it sounds like they have a steadier flow of FO's getting hired directly by mainline.
I'd still recommend a ULCC for two reasons: Don't have to worry about being metered by mainline. And if the hiring music stopped tomorrow, better pay/QOL than the regionals.
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