Originally Posted by Nevjets

Actually, this is a perfect example of an MEC acting in the best interest of their pilots. In the end, this is their flying they decided to not scope in. It belongs to them. At anytime, they can decide to use all their negotiating capital to bring all that flying back in house (brand scope). And there is nothing that regional MECs, or regional management’s for that matter, that would be able to do anything about it. It’s very simply a matter that that Jumpseat belongs to them.

Originally Posted by Nevjets

Actually, this is a perfect example of an MEC acting in the best interest of their pilots. In the end, this is their flying they decided to not scope in. It belongs to them. At anytime, they can decide to use all their negotiating capital to bring all that flying back in house (brand scope). And there is nothing that regional MECs, or regional management’s for that matter, that would be able to do anything about it. It’s very simply a matter that that Jumpseat belongs to them.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

All of that is correct except the part about NAI, that has no direct bearing on regional pilots (unless they are planning on moving on up someday). If NAI actually did gain a strong foothold in the US, the regionals would be competing to do THEIR regional feed

Where you need to manage your expectations... ALPA or other unions will not "fix" the regional system, they have no leverage as things stand. For example when the current party's over, they'll simply have a round of musical chairs and whichever regional is least willing to make concessions will be out. They'll be replaced by a startup "Millenial Air" flying the latest Embraer 177-E3, offering two year upgrades and starting at $20K/year.

ALPA could in theory fix that IF they had essentially all regionals onboard either directly or as a coalition (including OO of course) AND it was a major priority for the national organization, as dictated by the various major pilot groups. That last is the missing link, the major pilots are not going to expend their negotiating capital to "solve" the regional problem (we will keep a lid on scope, which does benefit everyone but regional lifers). The 35-year WB CA's are pretty greedy, and most didn't come from the commuters. The Lost Gen (ie me) would like to help cuz we understand, but now I'm out of runway financially so need to focus on retirement and can't take ANOTHER ten year hit to save all the folks at the minors. Fortunately for them, they live in good times and their misery will be short-lived. Your long game should be to GTFO if at all possible...

Originally Posted by ReadyRsv

NAI would definitely harm RJ drivers if their mainline carriers went TU.

Originally Posted by word302

Well now here we disagree. If United wants control of seats in front of the flight deck door then they can pay for them. Every seat in the back is theirs for the taking, in front of the door good luck with that.

Originally Posted by captive apple

So you want to talk about something else?

“Actually...”

Originally Posted by captive apple

Or is it that the regional ALPA MECs mean so little to you that I couldn’t possibly be talking about them not acting in the interest of their pilot group.

Originally Posted by TFAYD

Not really. The demand isn’t going away. It would just be flown under a different mainline partner brand. NAI Express anyone?

Originally Posted by TFAYD

Not really. The demand isn’t going away. It would just be flown under a different mainline partner brand. NAI Express anyone?

Originally Posted by ReadyRsv

Yeah. Watch United cold and see how that works out for FFD carriers. Lol.

Originally Posted by Nevjets

I would guess that a majority of regional pilots would rather work for UAL, DAL, AAL than emeritus, Qatari (who are subsidized), or NAI with their atypical employment practices. If you aren’t looking to move from your regional, I wouldn’t necessarily count on CPAs from them being more lucrative. The opposite May be true.