mercys ghost

5000+ pilots and their money. Of course SkyWest pilots would be good for ALPA.

MuPpET

Yeah, all $55 I pay a month to be represented by ALPA. It's not worth it, I could buy one of the latest gaming titles every month.

amcnd

Had you invested the money say over 5 years worth of dues in say a good stock or bitcoin... That $55 a month over 5 years could have... well, You do the math...

Reality is. Plan well beyond apla dues or even 401k... and intime work becomes less and less a need..

Nevjets

The poster said it was odd for non-Skywest pilots advocating for Skywest to unionize.
No non-Skywest pilot will see any money in their pockets if Skywest decides to unionize.
So that wouldn’t be my or any other non-Skywest pilots’ motivation. Like I said, my motivation is Skywest pilots being able to advocate and advance their own careers, which also helps the rest of the profession, us non-Skywest pilots. A bigger constituency has more power in congress and other government agencies. Representing your pilot group isn’t free. Negotiating a contract isn’t free. The ALPA resources aren’t free. Advocating for your profession isn’t free. Attorneys unfortunately cost money. That’s where their dues money would go, to pay for all of that.

Honestly, as a shareholder, why does it matter where dues money goes? I can see not wanting any work group to unionize. But if they choose to unionize, what’s difference does it make at that point?

mercys ghost

Where money goes is not the starting point. Its the fact that money is expected, regardless if you want to pay into it or not. And when the money is not received as expected, well, then, as you have stated a person will suffer the consequences. Union's have a certain "culture" that is lived by many, that will make those who don't want to live the culture pay for it in the long run. Jeopardizing your career possibilities because you don't pay into a system you may not want is extortion.



If a work group makes the choice to unionize, that is there choice. That however doesn't change anything when it comes to the nuts and bolts of it all.

mercys ghost

Lets talk about those who pay that money that don't want to. Why are you not concerned about those people? Who is speaking up for them? Or doesn't it matter, only as long as YOU get what YOU want?

MuPpET

They can go work for skywest or as Delta flight attendants.

mercys ghost

Ahhh yes....and you wonder why there are those that are skeptical on getting involved with unions? When there are those with attitudes just like this that are hardcore union supporters, kind of leaves a sour taste in the mouths of some.



You are doing a bang em up job selling your product. People in here are worried about me throwing a wrench into unionizing, when you are doing all the work. You should be proud.

Nevjets

And like I said before, the consequences are pretty minor considering. If someone even knows you’re not a dues paying member (it’s not public knowledge), you may get the ire of your fellow pilots. What does that mean? Depends but probably nothing more than rhetoric and social media bullying at the most. Also, you’ll won’t be able to vote or participate in any union activities. And lastly, you’ll be in arrears that will follow you only to other ALPA airlines. That’s about it.

But you didn’t answer my question. Why does any of that matter to someone who is just a shareholder? I get you don’t want any work group to unionize. But if they do, as a shareholder, what does it matter where the dues money go? That makes no difference to a shareholder.

Nevjets

It’s no different than a driver not wanting to pay premiums when their state passed insurance mandate laws. They have choices as well like I spelled out in the other thread.