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Old 10-14-2019, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd View Post
Well 7pm on the 14th. No letter yet from sapa. (They said they would have a printable letter to carry). Did they come to a agreement?? Or will they wait tell midnight??
They're probably waiting for one of the union carriers to write the letter and then SAPA will just "me too" it like they do with everything else in the industry.
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Old 10-14-2019, 05:34 PM
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Republic guy here. It’s a shame that OO and YX are considered other airline pilots in the eyes of united, considering our two regionals are consistently the top performers. Not to mention the two largest...

United and UAX preferred pilots will be affected coast to coast, kind of like we will be now, along with Mesa. I really hope Republic, Skywest, and Mesa pilots stick together on this and force some real change. It’s ridiculous how United is treating it’s largest partners.
Don't you guys get benefits on ALL THREE US Carriers?! The exclusive carriers do not get that perk. Either way, its not my fault United changed that rule... why would you punish me? When I do become captain I would NEVER turn a pilot down for a ride home now matter what.. regardless of politics. How sad that some pilots would do that. I hope all ExpressJet captains still give Skywest and Republic pilots rides home. I hope i never witness anyone stoop down to such a low level to punish those who do not make the rules.

On Delta - Endeavor gets priority
On American - Envoy, Piedmont and PSA get priority.
United = was not aligned with the others. So Skywest and Republic won't be giving anyone a ride?
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Old 10-14-2019, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghost of Mercy View Post
You rang? What can I help you with sir?
These people aren't angry enough. Can you make them angrier?
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Old 10-14-2019, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by captive apple View Post
You are literally advocating that captains don’t really control their jumpseat. Think about this. Is this what you really want. This is the last nice thing we have.
As opposed to the what’s happening now...which is SkyWest CAs being TOLD to deny certain people, which is ALSO a case of CAs not controlling the jumpseat.
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Old 10-14-2019, 09:02 PM
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Everyone should take a break, because this can end up much worse then just about Jumpseat's. If you don’t think you can lose your job over a FB post, you would be very wrong. HR cares about perception, and social media screen shots can certainly get you fired or sued. Exactly the reason I don’t post anything on a closed group, I wouldn’t post on a open group. For the record I wouldn’t forward anything to anyone, but I guarantee this will result in some unintended results.
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Old 10-14-2019, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by XJTFO View Post
Don't you guys get benefits on ALL THREE US Carriers?! The exclusive carriers do not get that perk. Either way, its not my fault United changed that rule... why would you punish me? When I do become captain I would NEVER turn a pilot down for a ride home now matter what.. regardless of politics. How sad that some pilots would do that. I hope all ExpressJet captains still give Skywest and Republic pilots rides home. I hope i never witness anyone stoop down to such a low level to punish those who do not make the rules.

On Delta - Endeavor gets priority
On American - Envoy, Piedmont and PSA get priority.
United = was not aligned with the others. So Skywest and Republic won't be giving anyone a ride?
Pretty sure most Republic pilots would be fine having this discussion. You guys aren’t technically owned by UA, but I think most would support you guys. The biggest problem is UAALPA didn’t discuss, they just implemented and then strong armed the UAX carriers.

Personally a blanket JS denial is improper in this situation. We should just reciprocate the exact same priority I.e. OAL. I suspect that’s where this will end up anyways. BTW your JS chairman letter is wrong. You certainly can JS on DL or AA flight operated by Republic.
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Old 10-14-2019, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BusBoy88 View Post
They're probably waiting for one of the union carriers to write the letter and then SAPA will just "me too" it like they do with everything else in the industry.
I think they are likely trying to figure out how to pay for the lawsuits that pilots will file against them for wrecking the careers of many.
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Old 10-14-2019, 10:38 PM
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It’s on. Jumpseat war is a go. SAPA went ahead and committed career suicide for the Skywest pilot group. Thanks SAPA
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Old 10-15-2019, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by domino View Post
It’s on. Jumpseat war is a go. SAPA went ahead and committed career suicide for the Skywest pilot group. Thanks SAPA
The captain is still in control, up to him or her to deny or allow the jumpseater.
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad Hatter View Post
The captain is still in control, up to him or her to deny or allow the jumpseater.
And it is up to him/her to deal with any repercussions. With all of the hiring that is going to be happening in the near future, I’d pick my battles carefully. Skywest doesn’t have a union. Any directive from their association carries no weight. The captain only controls the jumpseat. Unless the flight is full, use a vacation pass and sit in the back knowing that the captain is powerless to deny boarding except for safety reasons.
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