TFAYD

dude - stop the cool aid.

being sent home involuntarily without pay is a furlough. You can sugar coat it all you want and be creative just like all the creativity directed towards the PPM.

the good news is that people are smarter than that.

Claxstarr

Notice the “/s” at the end of his post
Sarrrrrrrcasm

savedbythevnav

no don’t tell them, it was funny to watch them jump at the opportunity to have an aneurysm

captive apple

Are you upset about tools (policy) used or the pay? Do you know these people are not on the seniority list so i don't think they are eligible for a pilot furlough. I'd like for them to be paid. Truth is we have hundreds of pilots VTO for their own reasons AND to keep this company solvent so we all might have jobs. If they were eligible for furlough and actually furloughed the company would have to give them a month worth of time to come back to class. When everything shut down everyone thought we'd be back to normal after a month. While the end result is the same there is a difference.
At a previous airline our training was shut down and pilots sent home for months, never once did we think of it as furlough though still ONP.

savedbythevnav

The new hires were already in class and are seniority list pilots. As a result, I didn’t read past this sentence.

captive apple

Well good luck.

savedbythevnav

Someone with your low level intelligence will need luck more than I, so I would suggest you hang onto it.

Turbosina

That's a very fair point but we didn't actually notice it until we got to our overnight (it was one leg out, one leg back). The FA was working the aft cabin, we were running late, we did the briefing basically by interphone, and off we went. So there really wasn't any in-person interaction until we got to the destination and it wasn't until we were walking to the van that we really noticed.
Lots of discussion obviously ensued, with the FA claiming it was 'just allergies'. By the time we got to the hotel the return leg had been switched to a repo (no pax). So at that point, it was like, well, we either all call off now and get stuck here in this hotel for God knows how long, or we just operate the repo and go the heck home.
The three of us (2 pilots and the other FA) agreed that flying home was likely the better approach. At that point we'd already been in the van with the sick FA. For the 14 days at home that have followed, I've been quarantining myself.
Good news is that the sick FA is now fine and none of us have felt any symptoms. So we're likely all in the clear.
Can't say our decision was necessarily the best at the time, but fortunately it turned out OK. Of course, I'm sure many crew members have made similar decisions recently and have had the opposite result

shrsailplanes

I’m on LCR for April. Company seniority in the low 3800’s. I have a standup and a day trip awarded through proffering this week provided they stay glued together. Last week I had a 2 day that fell apart to ready reserve for 2 hours. Hung out in the cell phone lot and then went home. Applied to a caravan job flying rubber dog sh*t from Hong Kong.

MasterOfPuppets

glad to hear it!

This is not directed at you....it’s never easy to make the call to refuse to fly with someone or call in sick on behalf of someone. This is an extrem time and people need to be held responsible for their actions. Come to sick work and I will either be going home or you will be going home there is no other option. Seems like chest pounding, I get it, but we are paid to make critical decisions to keep the people who have entrusted themselves to us safe. I have called myself off sick in Europe nothing like being sick in a foreign country......coming home would have been a very comfortable and easy decision.