Slyweezy starting a Part 135
07-12-2022, 05:11 PM
#111
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Originally Posted by R0GER BALL
You’re talking about an air carrier doing it. The crux is- why? To circumvent pay. To circumvent Colgen. Pay your pilots and attrition stops. Then you fly the routes like many last years. What changed? Attrition. What can control that? Money. Easier to circumvent I guess.
ALPA knows a thing or two about air carrier safety. Pilots always know more then the company about those sorta things.
ALPA knows a thing or two about air carrier safety. Pilots always know more then the company about those sorta things.
07-12-2022, 05:38 PM
#112
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes
Attrition dropped off a cliff when people began traveling again and mainline opened the hiring flood gates. Paying regional pilots more won’t stop them from going to mainline. The only reason most people go to a regional is to go to mainline. So, paying them more will have little effect on longevity IMO. Not in todays hiring climate.
I don't know exactly what the new business model will be but it will call for a lot fewer regional planes and a lot higher pay scale.
07-12-2022, 05:58 PM
#114
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes
Attrition dropped off a cliff when people began traveling again and mainline opened the hiring flood gates. Paying regional pilots more won’t stop them from going to mainline. The only reason most people go to a regional is to go to mainline. So, paying them more will have little effect on longevity IMO. Not in todays hiring climate.
07-12-2022, 06:47 PM
#115
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Originally Posted by RockyMountain
It the pay and benefits were the same at the regionals as the mainlines a lot fewer pilots would move. Everyone is so used to regional pilots being paid so little that they naturally leave for greener pastures. The current model doesn't work. 7 years ago regionals were still starting pilots off at 23 per hour which was equivalent to about $11 per working hour. People could not afford to invest to become pilots to make 11 per hour. Now the airlines need those people who never became pilots.
I don't know exactly what the new business model will be but it will call for a lot fewer regional planes and a lot higher pay scale.
I don't know exactly what the new business model will be but it will call for a lot fewer regional planes and a lot higher pay scale.
07-12-2022, 07:34 PM
#116
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
Here is a news source:
https://www.aviacionline.com/2022/07...ays-petitions/
ALPA needs to mind their business and keep their nose out of where it doesn't belong. They do not represent either Sky West or Republic pilots and it is crystal clear with this nonsense of ALPA stepping out of it's lane that it doesn't want to do anything to help solve an industry problem, but only make it worse. Typical libs.
https://www.aviacionline.com/2022/07...ays-petitions/
ALPA needs to mind their business and keep their nose out of where it doesn't belong. They do not represent either Sky West or Republic pilots and it is crystal clear with this nonsense of ALPA stepping out of it's lane that it doesn't want to do anything to help solve an industry problem, but only make it worse. Typical libs.
07-12-2022, 10:03 PM
#118
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I’ve also heard commuting to an ULCC is better then living in base for OO. I think this will still ring true after the new pay rates come out. The fact that it’s taking so long to be revealed is pretty telling to how the company values you and you staying here.
07-13-2022, 04:54 AM
#119
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Slyweezy starting a Part 135
Originally Posted by cai06001
I’ve also heard commuting to an ULCC is better then living in base for OO. I think this will still ring true after the new pay rates come out. The fact that it’s taking so long to be revealed is pretty telling to how the company values you and you staying here.
OO is banking on a big recession
07-14-2022, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by HighWingingIt
OO is banking on a big recession
1000%! We had a garbage holiday travel season, the first four days of January we averaged something like 20% cancellation rate, sure it was because of "COVID" but if we were even close to appropriately staffed we would have had much lower numbers. So we've known about the problem for 7 months, and we are still waiting ANOTHER "month or two" -- that means two months btw -- just to have a pay package to consider. Said package will be ****, and we may very well vote it down like the second to last one, and not see a dime of any raise til end of the year.
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