ALPA files Oppostion to Part 135 Operation
06-11-2023, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by LizzyBorden
Going to double down are ya on your false claim of no cost?
Wait, so is it state of the industry that wont allow it or scope that keeps Kirby at bay? Pick a side here......
Wait, so is it state of the industry that wont allow it or scope that keeps Kirby at bay? Pick a side here......
what costs are there for a major to add an incremental EAS flight in their reservation system? It’s zero.
Scope is wide open for 50 seaters. Nothing stops anyone to add more of them other than lack of pilots aka current state of the industry. They will be back the minute it makes economic sense. And yes, SkyWest charter is enabling that.
06-11-2023, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
dude - you really have no idea what you are talking about.
what costs are there for a major to add an incremental EAS flight in their reservation system? It’s zero.
Scope is wide open for 50 seaters. Nothing stops anyone to add more of them other than lack of pilots aka current state of the industry. They will be back the minute it makes economic sense. And yes, SkyWest charter is enabling that.
what costs are there for a major to add an incremental EAS flight in their reservation system? It’s zero.
Scope is wide open for 50 seaters. Nothing stops anyone to add more of them other than lack of pilots aka current state of the industry. They will be back the minute it makes economic sense. And yes, SkyWest charter is enabling that.
Well, considering you are making the argument that the major partners take on no costs shows you are 100% absolutely CLUELESS. Scream until you are blue in the face , stomp your feet, flop on the floor like a fish, and you are still wrong. EVERYTHING INCURS a cost.
Nothing stops anyone from bringing back the Metro either, but its days are done....just like the 50 seat market. Thank GOODNESS you are not handling any business decisions for anyone.
06-11-2023, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by LizzyBorden
Well, considering you are making the argument that the major partners take on no costs shows you are 100% absolutely CLUELESS. Scream until you are blue in the face , stomp your feet, flop on the floor like a fish, and you are still wrong. EVERYTHING INCURS a cost.
Nothing stops anyone from bringing back the Metro either, but its days are done....just like the 50 seat market. Thank GOODNESS you are not handling any business decisions for anyone.
Nothing stops anyone from bringing back the Metro either, but its days are done....just like the 50 seat market. Thank GOODNESS you are not handling any business decisions for anyone.
why don’t you educate me what those costs are? And how are they not easily covered by incremental revenue?
any idea what brought the Bro to an end? Hint - it wasn’t the customer experience
06-11-2023, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
why don’t you educate me what those costs are? And how are they not easily covered by incremental revenue?
any idea what brought the Bro to an end? Hint - it wasn’t the customer experience
any idea what brought the Bro to an end? Hint - it wasn’t the customer experience
I already gave you a simple one, and you are hell bent on denying it. If you cannot even comprehend the res system costs, then anything else would be so far over your head.
I know exactly what brought the bro to an end, it was the lack of finding prop blade replacements, AND customer experience. Also notice that Delta shooed the bro off while they could still get parts? Yea, that is because Delta knew people hated them.
06-11-2023, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LizzyBorden
I already gave you a simple one, and you are hell bent on denying it. If you cannot even comprehend the res system costs, then anything else would be so far over your head.
I know exactly what brought the bro to an end, it was the lack of finding prop blade replacements, AND customer experience. Also notice that Delta shooed the bro off while they could still get parts? Yea, that is because Delta knew people hated them.
I know exactly what brought the bro to an end, it was the lack of finding prop blade replacements, AND customer experience. Also notice that Delta shooed the bro off while they could still get parts? Yea, that is because Delta knew people hated them.
and what exactly are the reservation system cost? The cost of adding a flight? How about you try explaining it. What are the MARGINAL cost of adding flights. Look up marginal cost and why would incremental revenue not far exceed whatever minimal cost there are?
06-11-2023, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
you realize that there is more than DL.
and what exactly are the reservation system cost? The cost of adding a flight? How about you try explaining it. What are the MARGINAL cost of adding flights. Look up marginal cost and why would incremental revenue not far exceed whatever minimal cost there are?
and what exactly are the reservation system cost? The cost of adding a flight? How about you try explaining it. What are the MARGINAL cost of adding flights. Look up marginal cost and why would incremental revenue not far exceed whatever minimal cost there are?
OK, so you are obviously not either reading what I have said, or you cannot seem to wrap your head around the concept. You said before what other costs to they have besides adding a flight number? In your mind, are you saying that is the cost of it? After that is done, boom. No other money is required to maintain anything?
06-11-2023, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LizzyBorden
Yea, of course I know there is more than DL.
OK, so you are obviously not either reading what I have said, or you cannot seem to wrap your head around the concept. You said before what other costs to they have besides adding a flight number? In your mind, are you saying that is the cost of it? After that is done, boom. No other money is required to maintain anything?
OK, so you are obviously not either reading what I have said, or you cannot seem to wrap your head around the concept. You said before what other costs to they have besides adding a flight number? In your mind, are you saying that is the cost of it? After that is done, boom. No other money is required to maintain anything?
for the major? Pretty much. What else does UA or DL have to pay for a pro-rate flight? To and outstation that is operated by OO?
and a hub where OO would pay for handing cost to whoever does the ground handling - most of the time it’s outsourced anyway.
06-11-2023, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
what exactly do the major partners have to invest other than assigning a flight number?
Kirby would love to fly all the 50 seaters that scope allows if he could.
Kirby would love to fly all the 50 seaters that scope allows if he could.
06-11-2023, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
If those pilots cost the mainline pilots they want to staff their planes with, that makes no sense. Besides, the other majors will steal those pilots, anyway.
every CEO in their right mind would want to get all the capacity they can at the lowest cost possible
06-11-2023, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
for the major? Pretty much. What else does UA or DL have to pay for a pro-rate flight? To and outstation that is operated by OO?
and a hub where OO would pay for handing cost to whoever does the ground handling - most of the time it’s outsourced anyway.
and a hub where OO would pay for handing cost to whoever does the ground handling - most of the time it’s outsourced anyway.
So who foots the bill for the equipment? Computers, servers, etc etc
Who foots the bill for the person who is to install and maintain that equipment?
Who foots the bill for the revenue management analysis who have to monitor fares, seat inventory, denied boardings, weight and balance, seat caps...etc etc?
Who foots the bill for the customer service oversight from the major partner?
Who foots the bill for the contracted ground handling in major hubs?
Who foots the bill the security oversight from the major partner over the route and airport(s) served.
Hint. There is only one right answer here, and its not the regional flying the at risk route.
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