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Old 02-04-2023, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina View Post
Latest seniority list shows that the CA/FO imbalance is almost exactly as large as when the forced upgrades began.. All that policy accomplished was to encourage more people to leave. Literally that's all it did. But just as many CAs have left as FOs, so the imbalance is still just as bad as it was.

Translation: the company has zero reason to bring any more FOs on property unless it can stop CAs from leaving.. And given that the company refuses to discuss QoL issues (the main reason most CAs are leaving), there's no indication that this situation will change at any time in the future. Unless the majors and LCCs stop hiring. That's the only thing that will realistically address the imbalance.
Oh come on...QOL is not the main reason CA's are leaving. Until the hiring stops up top there is nothing that the regionals can do to stop the bleeding. No amount of money, no "QOL" improvements are going to override a seniority number.
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Old 02-04-2023, 03:14 PM
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Anyone else get an email tonight with their new class date?
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Old 02-04-2023, 03:51 PM
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Anyone else get an email tonight with their new class date?
Yes, 3/10 ATP 3/20 CRJ Indoc
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Old 02-04-2023, 03:52 PM
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Anyone else get an email tonight with their new class date?
Not that I receive. Did you? When was your original class date? And when is your new one?
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Old 02-04-2023, 03:55 PM
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Yes, 3/10 ATP 3/20 CRJ Indoc
When was your original class date?
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Old 02-04-2023, 03:56 PM
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When was your original class date?
2/10 , 2/20 so just a month delay for me.
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Old 02-04-2023, 03:57 PM
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2/10 , 2/20 so just a month delay for me.
I’m in the class right after you originally so hopefully I will hear something soon! Exciting news for y’all
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Old 02-04-2023, 04:15 PM
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Not that I receive. Did you? When was your original class date? And when is your new one?
I was also originally 2/10 and 2/20 now 3/10 and 3/20.
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Old 02-04-2023, 04:39 PM
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Not that I receive. Did you? When was your original class date? And when is your new one?
Same as the other guy.
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Old 02-04-2023, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina View Post
Latest seniority list shows that the CA/FO imbalance is almost exactly as large as when the forced upgrades began.. All that policy accomplished was to encourage more people to leave. Literally that's all it did. But just as many CAs have left as FOs, so the imbalance is still just as bad as it was.

Translation: the company has zero reason to bring any more FOs on property unless it can stop CAs from leaving.. And given that the company refuses to discuss QoL issues (the main reason most CAs are leaving), there's no indication that this situation will change at any time in the future. Unless the majors and LCCs stop hiring. That's the only thing that will realistically address the imbalance.
What is worse is that Chip doesn’t have a plan.

I encourage everyone to listen to the last earnings call recording. Chip is basically insinuating that hiring at the majors may slow a bit and that the new pay package is working as intended. Maybe he feels bullish after the Jan Gone Report showed a net gain of 35 pilots vs a net loss of of ~1000 pilots in 2022.

And yes, the CA/FO remains unchanged. The entire operation is just shrinking.

30 percent of the ERJ fleet is sitting idle and more than 40 percent of the CRJ fleet is not productive. These are some very sobering numbers.
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