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07-29-2025 | 03:36 AM

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amcnd

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Originally Posted by trip

SKYW Captain Year 1-142$ Y2-148$ Y3 152$ Y20-220$
EDV. Captain Year 1-154$, Y2-157$ Y3-159$ Y20-222$
Envoy Captain Year1-157$ Y2-161$ Y3 165$ Y20-225$

Not the same, SKYW is behind all the way, lets see them raise the bar...

your rates are off…

07-29-2025 | 04:29 AM

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LizzyBorden

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Originally Posted by JoeBlo

Skywest pilots do whatever Skywest managment tells them to do. If they cut their pay, there's nothing the pilots can do except quit.

They don't have any legal protections....... yet.

Vote for ALPA guys

Nahhhh. Too many creepy cult like nutcases to deal with.

07-29-2025 | 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LizzyBorden

Nahhhh. Too many creepy cult like nutcases to deal with.

Objectively, I do a recall a couple ALPA advocates back in the day who took it to the level of religious extremism. Easier to hero worship something when you don't have any experience with it. But that would all self-correct if it got voted in.

07-29-2025 | 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

I am talking about many current ALPA members, not potential ones.

07-30-2025 | 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LizzyBorden

I am talking about many current ALPA members, not potential ones.

Hmm. I haven't seen that. Actually living the reality of any human enterprise is pretty grounding. It's when you start fantasizing about saviors and heroes that things can get a little weird.

07-30-2025 | 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

Hmm. I haven't seen that. Actually living the reality of any human enterprise is pretty grounding. It's when you start fantasizing about saviors and heroes that things can get a little weird.

All I would have to do is create a respectful post as to why SkyWest is better off without ALPA and this forum would set a record for the amount of responses to a single thread. Would be an ugly, ugly sight to behold.

I have quite a fan base of those exact nutcases I speak of here on APC thanks to comments I made.

07-31-2025 | 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LizzyBorden

I have quite a fan base of those exact nutcases I speak of here on APC thanks to comments I made.

I don't think you are as important as you think you are...

07-31-2025 | 05:59 AM

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I don't think you are as important as you think you are...

The behavior of some says otherwise.

07-31-2025 | 09:08 AM

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JoJocou

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Originally Posted by VacancyBid

my take, for the industry generally, nothing specific to SW, will be a bi/tri-furcation

1) FO wages will reflect supply >> demand
2) captain wages will be be strong
3) LCA wages will continue on par with the majors

FO's are really a renewable resource and the company is doing then a favor with every hour accrued. At the other end, LCA's are a precious commodity that command career wages. Captains are in-between

Regarding your reference to “favor” .. Are you saying that Skywest entity is doing the pilot a favor by employing the pilot / FO?

07-31-2025 | 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JoJocou

Regarding your reference to “favor” .. Are you saying that Skywest entity is doing the pilot a favor by employing the pilot / FO?

It's not a SkyWest thing, it is a current state of the industry thing. As was said in the previous post, pilots that want to get into the 121 world right now are beyond plentiful. A couple of years ago all the regionals were fighting over the same pilots to come be a FO for them, there were not enough for everyone to meet their demand. Right now, complete opposite, there are more pilots available with apps in than there is demand for new FOs at the regionals.