I'll add, the one thing MSP does seem to have is some good paying standups. Maybe I'm just seeing things but I've seen a lot of good looking ones in open time/crew posted time. 6-7.5 hours. If you live in MSP and stick it out, you can probably get these in the not too distant future.

 

Agree. All the MSP complaining comes from people that dont live there. (I would say 90% of the CA's dont live in MSP). If you live there its the best base for a Jr. Pilot... Operations smooth, covered parking, ect...

 

Things at the regional level have been out of balance since the regional model's inception.

I've read your post and you seem genuinely disgusted with this industry. Understand that if you CHOOSE to come here you will be miserable because this airline is not going to change for YOU. A Part 135 gig might suit you better. The last thing any of us want to do is listen to someone on a 3 or 4 day trip moan about the pure disgust he has for the regional airline. Some of the guys you'd be sharing that cockpit with have been here for 25 to 30 years. It will not be tolerated.

Despite all the propaganda being spewed, the effects of a pilot shortage have not hit our mainline partners in terms of reliability or feed. Until mainline feels the pain, the regional pilot does not matter.

Our training roster currently shows more than 190 new hires. There is no pilot shortage.

My .50 cents worth...it'll buy you a cheap coffee....or a payraise at OO locked in for the next 4 years.

Seriously, I would not come here.
SP35

 

What, is there's a special den of misery I am not privy to?? Is it a revered place only for the few? Trust me, I've been there - long, long ago. Its not about changing the place for me. Besides, I know the last thing to do is harp about all this crap while on a trip. Harping about BS on a trip ruins the only good thing about the job - I have no intention of making a trip nothing but a diatribe.

 

Yes! A revered place for the currently employed.

I find it strange that someone who is looking at a company as a perspective employer would trash it so vehemently on a public forum prior to being employed.
I would say that is a generational thing, but you have portrayed yourself to be of middle-age. Your behavior seems to be more representative of a "millenial".

Just an observation. To each his own.

 

so you have no specific points about what to improve? ok then i can just assume that you were someone who expected well i dont know what you want which is what im trying to find out


just curious how exactly would i know when the last vote took place? maybe you can point me to the correct location for this information?
thanks

** oh and i forgot. In choosing this regional well yes I was thinking about longer than the first 12 months though if I get this bitter from working here maybe not but the pay is already better than everyone 2nd year and beyond so what did you want? thats the crux of it.

 

Countless suggestions have and are being made about what we would like to improve on. Like others have said it sounds like you're on your first year, everyone knew what they were getting into when we signed up for this. It's not that we don't want to help our people on year 1 it's just we're trying to help the entire pilot group.

 

And to add onto my earlier post...
Most of what we'd like is QOL gains. Sure our hourly rates are towards the top compared to other regionals, but most of us need time off. Even if we got a few bucks an hour added onto our respective longevity rates it wouldn't make much of a big difference at the end of the year. What we really need is more time at our homes or better trip efficiency. That's worth way more than a little bit of money. You can always make more money you can't get your time back once it's gone.

 

If you are already bitter you may want to consider an occupational change?

Last vote took place 2 years ago. Bro FO pay raise. There are not too many Bro FOs or Bros still around. Management kept that little gem to themselves.

A first year pay raise is a recruiting incentive. If OO really wants to incentivize perspective pilots they'll offer a signing bonus. If they are interested in maintaining their staff of pilots, they will offer a retention incentive.

A first year pay raise excluding the pilots who have more time in the LAV than you or I have in our logbook is a slap in their face.

QOL is what plots want and while that first year payraise seems enticing, a QOL improvement is worth more.

 

I am interested in Skywest because I am considering making it a long (longish?) term, career end situation. No other regional appeals or works for me in that regard. I am doing my due diligence here with people who work there, trying to see how they negotiate, what they think, etc. I am not trashing it. Pay needs to be better short and long term, but if it improves its not out of line for me, even if it is less than ideal for a family person. The erosion of days off and QOL are also of a concern. That's why I become interested when people here tell me the company laughs at them when they go and try and tell them what they want. Concern/interest, vs trashing. Apologies if it came out otherwise.