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06-22-2015, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Hopefully captains have the ballz to cancel when the WX gets bad.
06-22-2015, 05:41 AM
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We've had 15 low speed events this year. I'm not surprised.
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06-22-2015, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
We've had 15 low speed events this year.
How in the absolute shizz, after Colgan 3407, are pilots STILL not minding the store when it comes to airspeed?!?
06-22-2015, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
How in the absolute shizz, after Colgan 3407, are pilots STILL not minding the store when it comes to airspeed?!?
06-22-2015, 06:09 AM
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Eh, it can happen to anyone, I don't know how much inattention it takes but I'm guilty of inattention. But a couple speed events ago we as a pilot group should have thrown out ECON.
06-22-2015, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
How in the absolute shizz, after Colgan 3407, are pilots STILL not minding the store when it comes to airspeed?!?
Originally Posted by wrxpilot
I have no idea. Anybody that cruises less than .70 in a 200, or less than .74 in a 7/900 is an idiot. To totally checkout and not notice a decaying speed event is pure incompetence.
Company assigned cruise speeds (ECON) can be MUCH lower than what many experienced CRJ pilots would consider prudent. Folks who comply with ECON speeds blindly have little to no margin at the bottom and would therefore need to maintain a MUCH higher level of attentiveness than is the norm for jet aircraft in cruise flight. Like 100% attentiveness.
06-22-2015, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Eh, it can happen to anyone, I don't know how much inattention it takes but I'm guilty of inattention. But a couple speed events ago we as a pilot group should have thrown out ECON.
06-22-2015, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
There's more to it than that.
Those are reasonable numbers, and check with my own experience.
Company assigned cruise speeds (ECON) can be MUCH lower than what many experienced CRJ pilots would consider prudent. Folks who comply with ECON speeds blindly have little to no margin at the bottom and would therefore need to maintain a MUCH higher level of attentiveness than is the norm for jet aircraft in cruise flight. Like 100% attentiveness.
Those are reasonable numbers, and check with my own experience.
Company assigned cruise speeds (ECON) can be MUCH lower than what many experienced CRJ pilots would consider prudent. Folks who comply with ECON speeds blindly have little to no margin at the bottom and would therefore need to maintain a MUCH higher level of attentiveness than is the norm for jet aircraft in cruise flight. Like 100% attentiveness.
The vast majority of our pilots do the same... But as you said, the ECON speeds can throw off some who clearly don't know their craft very well. Honestly, I find this whole thing extremely embarrassing for our pilot group.
06-22-2015, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by WhoCares
Dumb enough already and yet you still don't understand. Says a lot about you.
Nobody here cares about your regional. They came to SkyWest because it isn't any other regional, it's SkyWest.
Post all you want. Just try to understand no one cares.
Now take your new found knowledge and move along.
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Nobody here cares about your regional. They came to SkyWest because it isn't any other regional, it's SkyWest.
Post all you want. Just try to understand no one cares.
Now take your new found knowledge and move along.
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06-22-2015, 08:43 AM
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Not to point fingers and I have no data to back this up, but it seems to me we have had a bunch of these so far this year. What has changed?
Now I always thought the sim during the interview was pretty dumb. But you had to pay attention and have good awareness to keep it on track. We stop doing it during interviews, take whoever we can and hope that training will flush them out and now we have a whole bunch of low speeds happening all of a sudden?? For me, I think that the departure of CE and our attitude of get any butt in the seat has to have contributed some to this.
Now I always thought the sim during the interview was pretty dumb. But you had to pay attention and have good awareness to keep it on track. We stop doing it during interviews, take whoever we can and hope that training will flush them out and now we have a whole bunch of low speeds happening all of a sudden?? For me, I think that the departure of CE and our attitude of get any butt in the seat has to have contributed some to this.
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