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07-24-2015, 11:49 AM
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JS while deadheading
Just curious, what is your pilot group's stance on a deadheading crewmember taking the jumpseat? I witnessed this twice in the last week, both were SKW employees. One was on a flight I was working out of LAX, which the captain shot down immediately. The other instance, a Skywest operated flight, bumped a commuting pilot off the jumpseat on the last flight of the day, leaving the individual stranded for the night. I realize there is no union there to provide direction on the issue, but is the pilot group really cool with that?
This is a big no-no at ALPA carriers, and can put your company's JS agreement in jeopardy. Especially when a commuting pilot gets bumped by someone who should be a ticketed passenger in the back.
This is a big no-no at ALPA carriers, and can put your company's JS agreement in jeopardy. Especially when a commuting pilot gets bumped by someone who should be a ticketed passenger in the back.
07-24-2015, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
Just curious, what is your pilot group's stance on a deadheading crewmember taking the jumpseat? I witnessed this twice in the last week, both were SKW employees. One was on a flight I was working out of LAX, which the captain shot down immediately. The other instance, a Skywest operated flight, bumped a commuting pilot off the jumpseat on the last flight of the day, leaving the individual stranded for the night. I realize there is no union there to provide direction on the issue, but is the pilot group really cool with that?
This is a big no-no at ALPA carriers, and can put your company's JS agreement in jeopardy. Especially when a commuting pilot gets bumped by someone who should be a ticketed passenger in the back.
This is a big no-no at ALPA carriers, and can put your company's JS agreement in jeopardy. Especially when a commuting pilot gets bumped by someone who should be a ticketed passenger in the back.
07-24-2015, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
Just curious, what is your pilot group's stance on a deadheading crewmember taking the jumpseat? I witnessed this twice in the last week, both were SKW employees. One was on a flight I was working out of LAX, which the captain shot down immediately. The other instance, a Skywest operated flight, bumped a commuting pilot off the jumpseat on the last flight of the day, leaving the individual stranded for the night. I realize there is no union there to provide direction on the issue, but is the pilot group really cool with that?
This is a big no-no at ALPA carriers, and can put your company's JS agreement in jeopardy. Especially when a commuting pilot gets bumped by someone who should be a ticketed passenger in the back.
This is a big no-no at ALPA carriers, and can put your company's JS agreement in jeopardy. Especially when a commuting pilot gets bumped by someone who should be a ticketed passenger in the back.
07-24-2015, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I'll only do it if there are no JS waiting and the flight is over sold or trying to get more non-rev on.
07-24-2015, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
Even then you are technically not supposed to do it, but bumping a commuter off the JS to get a deadhead on last minute? That's just cold...
07-24-2015, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I'll only do it if there are no JS waiting and the flight is over sold or trying to get more non-rev on.
07-24-2015, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
What are you talking about? I'd never take the jump if there was a commuter trying to get on. I make that perfectly clear to the gate agent and won't board until the last minute. Where does it say a DH pilot is not permitted in the jump? I think it's the right thing to do if there are pax or other non revs trying to board that wouldn't make it on if you didn't take the jump.
But you wouldn't bump a commuting pilot off the jump because the gate agent is pressuring you into it. And that's what I'm saying is wrong. I witnessed it just a couple of days ago and was wondering if that is SOP over at OO.
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07-24-2015, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
But you wouldn't bump a commuting pilot off the jump because the gate agent is pressuring you into it. And that's what I'm saying is wrong. I witnessed it just a couple of days ago and was wondering if that is SOP over at OO.
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07-24-2015, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
No. Never. If I have a ticket and there's a js, then I sit in the back...except in STL. Unfortunately our contract says that DH pilots may be required to sit in the jump seat and the gate agents know this.
07-24-2015, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
That's f'd up man! Even at YV we don't do that. Ever.
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