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Old 07-25-2015 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Show me your awesome 24, 25, 26 27 and 28 hour 4 days then...

Plenty of them in DEN CRJ.
Just look at the ORD pairings, we've had a few 30 hour 4 days. AVERAGE credit per day for a 4 day is 5:36 a hour, so the average 4 day pays over 22 hours, I ensure you if you bother to look at most 4 days are over 24 hours on the 175 out of ORD
Old 07-25-2015 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
Skywest having a HIMS program has nothing to do with unions. The HIMS program was started by the NIAAA, the FAA then awarded a contract to ALPA, it was a federal program that was started and funded by the government, the program was then brainstormed by a UNited and Continental captain, the FAA then awarded contracts to ALPA, so to imply that ALPA came swooping in with its superman t-shirt is just silly. JS is based on reciprocating agreements, which non Union carriers have so I would assume alpa didn't negotiate that for us and other carriers. Union carriers pilots want to be on our jump as much as we want to be on theirs.



You truly are a broken record, I assume your house is decorated in ALPA colors and ALPA wallpaper

ALPA lobbies every year to keep HIMS funded. Yes, it is contracted to ALPA to benefit all pilots. As for JS, you just need to go back to after 9/11. No offline JS until ALPA and other pilot unions pushed the Feds to allow it again. That's how CASS came to be. ALPA also is a huge part of KCM. ALPA isn't perfect but they do a lot for pilots, including the coat tail riders.
Old 07-25-2015 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
Just look at the ORD pairings, we've had a few 30 hour 4 days. AVERAGE credit per day for a 4 day is 5:36 a hour, so the average 4 day pays over 22 hours, I ensure you if you bother to look at most 4 days are over 24 hours on the 175 out of ORD
My apologies,

5:43 average on 4 days for the 200 and 5:55 for 7/9

in Denver.

But I guess if you bothered to look.......
Old 07-25-2015 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
My apologies,

5:43 average on 4 days for the 200 and 5:55 for 7/9

in Denver.

But I guess if you bothered to look.......
I didn't bother to look because I don't have access to that report...I'm not on the CRJ or in Denver for that matter. System wide report does not breakdown each domicile.
You asked me to show you 4 days worth 24+ I just said to look at the pairings, I can't copy and paste them all here for you
Old 07-25-2015 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
I didn't bother to look because I don't have access to that report...I'm not on the CRJ or in Denver for that matter. System wide report does not breakdown each domicile.
You asked me to show you 4 days worth 24+ I just said to look at the pairings, I can't copy and paste them all here for you
You can access all RSR reports on the sapa website for every domicile just FYI.

but yes I know your high paying pairings exist. But I've seen far too many 16-18 hour 4 days on the 175 (particularly SFO) for me to bid the plane just yet.

It has a lot to do with the length of the flights, some flights (SFO-MSP, SFO-AUS, SFO-DFW) are just too long to add another flight on the same day and thus the days have low duty days but low pay as well.

once the routes increase and the pairings get better, I'd come on over. but right now CRJ is simply better at least in Denver.

(of course this does not take into account the higher pay of the 175, so I could probably make more money on it but I'm talking straight credit here)
Old 07-25-2015 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
You can access all RSR reports on the sapa website for every domicile just FYI.

but yes I know your high paying pairings exist. But I've seen far too many 16-18 hour 4 days on the 175 (particularly SFO) for me to bid the plane just yet.

It has a lot to do with the length of the flights, some flights (SFO-MSP, SFO-AUS, SFO-DFW) are just too long to add another flight on the same day and thus the days have low duty days but low pay as well.

once the routes increase and the pairings get better, I'd come on over. but right now CRJ is simply better at least in Denver.

(of course this does not take into account the higher pay of the 175, so I could probably make more money on it but I'm talking straight credit here)
Ah I see, I live in Chicago and so never sought out info on other bases. Obviously no one has any idea what pairings will look like out of Denver or how big it will be.
I believe the reasons I stated earlier is true for why the 175 is more junior then the 175. There's not much reason for someone that's senior and flying 7/9 to come over, spending a month and a half in class unless flying a new plane is what gets your motor going.
Old 07-25-2015 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
Ah I see, I live in Chicago and so never sought out info on other bases. Obviously no one has any idea what pairings will look like out of Denver or how big it will be.
I believe the reasons I stated earlier is true for why the 175 is more junior then the 175. There's not much reason for someone that's senior and flying 7/9 to come over, spending a month and a half in class unless flying a new plane is what gets your motor going.
exactly. and it ain't even just a month and a half. I am a brasilia transition and I August is my first month bidding since march.

Training is brutal for anyone who needs specific days off. I've been unable to dictate my schedule for 4 months and it SUCKS.
Old 07-25-2015 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
Management does not have access.....
They don't (former rep here) but that of course doesn't stop some fool from printing or showing their favorite mgr what is being said. Still, I never have had much of a filter and haven't heard otherwise.
Old 07-25-2015 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
ALPA lobbies every year to keep HIMS funded. Yes, it is contracted to ALPA to benefit all pilots. As for JS, you just need to go back to after 9/11. No offline JS until ALPA and other pilot unions pushed the Feds to allow it again. That's how CASS came to be. ALPA also is a huge part of KCM. ALPA isn't perfect but they do a lot for pilots, including the coat tail riders.
How does it feel to be a "coat tail rider" at Expressjet? How long has INC been bailing you out?
Old 07-25-2015 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
How does it feel to be a "coat tail rider" at Expressjet? How long has INC been bailing you out?
You obviously lack the knowledge of why XJ is losing money. Skywest management caused it by backing themselves into a corner when negotiating the CPA with CAL. Better yet Brad Rich admitted they screwed up during the process in a coference call about a 1.5 years ago.
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