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Old 07-21-2015 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
either way he's right, it shouldn't be that way.

I have a 27 hour 4 day next month that blocks 29 hours.

Guess how much I'll end up making? 27 of course.

aka I already lost 2 hours because of "historical credit"

you can climb at 250 and cruise at .70 all day, it's not easy to pink legs that don't touch sfo/ord/iah
That's a solid 4 day!
Old 07-21-2015 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyhawk121
Two legs cancelling cost you 40 minutes? You must be flying the long hauls.
Deadhead only pays actual so lost 15 minutes from sitting in back on mainline vs. flying. Round trip I lost 19 minutes, so technically only 34. But my day credit was 6:06 and the block was supposed to be 6:40. So even though my last leg was over block, I still only got the 6:04. Had I flown it all at block with the last leg over block, I would have ended up with 40 more minutes of pay. So between both pilots, SW saved themselves about 120 minutes of pay. (I just realized my cancel pay will be at the 200 rate so that is another $20 less pay)

Things like this need to be considered when we try to tell everyone we are the highest paid regional. Add in insurance costs and lower 401k, vacation accrual and soft time at the 200 rate, we are NOT the highest paid regional despite the fancy charts we like to throw around.

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Old 07-21-2015 | 10:29 AM
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I didn't want to start my own thread for this, so I'm shamelessly going to post it here.

I'm looking to purchase a medium leather jacket in good condition. If anyone has one for sale please PM me. Willing to pay $200.
Old 07-21-2015 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
Deadhead only pays actual so lost 15 minutes from sitting in back on mainline vs. flying. Round trip I lost 19 minutes, so technically only 34. But my day credit was 6:06 and the block was supposed to be 6:40. So even though my last leg was over block, I still only got the 6:04. Had I flown it all at block with the last leg over block, I would have ended up with 40 more minutes of pay. So between both pilots, SW saved themselves about 120 minutes of pay.

Things like this need to be considered when we try to tell everyone we are the highest paid regional. Add in insurance costs and lower 401k, vacation accrual and soft time at the 200 rate, we are NOT the highest paid regional despite the fancy charts we like to throw around.
Excellent way of explaining it. Too many people just look at the longevity scale for seat and only use that to determine wages. Hopefully this helps
Old 07-21-2015 | 10:56 AM
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I've got mostly locals next month with a few standups. Looking at just the locals I credit 72:09 with 74:15 of block. If I were at any other airline I would credit the 74:15, another 2:06 of pay. That's a 3 % loss.

Take all of our pay rates and subtract 3% when comparing them to other airlines.
Old 07-21-2015 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by skypilot35
I think you are spot on with this. There is deal already in place and not being advertised until a pilot package is in place.

Vote no and quit picking up open time!
Vote NO!!

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Old 07-21-2015 | 02:40 PM
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What he said.
That was a pretty ignorant comment.

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Old 07-21-2015 | 02:53 PM
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Wow, Bigot.
Old 07-21-2015 | 04:14 PM
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Hahaha I thought it was hilarious!!!
Old 07-21-2015 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
Deadhead only pays actual so lost 15 minutes from sitting in back on mainline vs. flying. Round trip I lost 19 minutes, so technically only 34. But my day credit was 6:06 and the block was supposed to be 6:40. So even though my last leg was over block, I still only got the 6:04. Had I flown it all at block with the last leg over block, I would have ended up with 40 more minutes of pay. So between both pilots, SW saved themselves about 120 minutes of pay. (I just realized my cancel pay will be at the 200 rate so that is another $20 less pay)

Things like this need to be considered when we try to tell everyone we are the highest paid regional. Add in insurance costs and lower 401k, vacation accrual and soft time at the 200 rate, we are NOT the highest paid regional despite the fancy charts we like to throw around.

Finally someone gets what I've been saying for years (not taking credit for it, just pointing it out as an example). Your pay rates are not bad at all. It's EVERYTHING else that is almost never in your pay packages.
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