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Old 08-30-2015 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
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I've seen a few comments on here alluding to picking a plane based on its upgrade time. The aircraft you choose doesn't affect your upgrade time. It's your overall company wide seniority. Unless you're really focused on a base you need, take the first class available. Even a weeks seniority makes a difference just in the case the music stops. At my old airline, if I had started two weeks later, I would have gotten furloughed 2-3 months before I actually did get furloughed.


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I bid the ERJ175 to help me move on to the majors. I don't want anything to do with regional jets.
Old 08-30-2015 | 10:21 PM
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I bid the ERJ175 to help me move on to the majors. I don't want anything to do with regional jets.












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Old 08-30-2015 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JB22
I bid the ERJ175 to help me move on to the majors. I don't want anything to do with regional jets.
The Force is weak with this one. C'mon man, you can do better...
Old 08-31-2015 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JB22
I bid the ERJ175 to help me move on to the majors. I don't want anything to do with regional jets.
I picked CRJ. Delta benefits and as more 175's come on line people will leave the CRJ to the 175. If your a FO in the 175 this means someone with a senior line number will keep bumping you back down. Tougher to make Capt.

On the CRJ side this opens up upgrade opportunities. People are less likely to leave the 175 to upgrade I the CRJ so the CRJ FO's will upgrade quicker. At least, that's the theory...

I like hand flying the plane anyway.
Old 08-31-2015 | 05:54 AM
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I picked CRJ. Delta benefits and as more 175's come on line people will leave the CRJ to the 175. If your a FO in the 175 this means someone with a senior line number will keep bumping you back down. Tougher to make Capt.

On the CRJ side this opens up upgrade opportunities. People are less likely to leave the 175 to upgrade I the CRJ so the CRJ FO's will upgrade quicker. At least, that's the theory...

I like hand flying the plane anyway.

I have been hearing people say I should go with 175 because it is more popular among airlines and because it is more technologically advanced.. JB22 says it will him get to the majors quicker. Anyone else would confirm this?
Old 08-31-2015 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AFflyer
I picked CRJ. Delta benefits and as more 175's come on line people will leave the CRJ to the 175. If your a FO in the 175 this means someone with a senior line number will keep bumping you back down. Tougher to make Capt.

On the CRJ side this opens up upgrade opportunities. People are less likely to leave the 175 to upgrade I the CRJ so the CRJ FO's will upgrade quicker. At least, that's the theory...

I like hand flying the plane anyway.
Just a tip. You haven't even started class yet, so please don't offer advice when you are regurgitating others opinions.

If you have been reading others post your seniority number is system wide. So the class of 9/3 for the ERJ will be able to bid captain on the CRJ before you since you don't start until late October.

Next stop justifying your opinion of choosing the CRJ because you were not able to get in an ERJ class. Believe me no gives a crap about equipment, everyone is stuck in the regionals for the long haul. Equipment doesn't matter, this has been stated for ages.
Old 08-31-2015 | 07:53 AM
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The main thing I have heard the majors and others like to see a recent training event such as transition from the crj to erj or upgrade. It's not some "engines under the wings" time that will make or break your career goals to a major airline hiring you or not.
Old 08-31-2015 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by AFflyer
I picked CRJ. Delta benefits and as more 175's come on line people will leave the CRJ to the 175. If your a FO in the 175 this means someone with a senior line number will keep bumping you back down. Tougher to make Capt.

On the CRJ side this opens up upgrade opportunities. People are less likely to leave the 175 to upgrade I the CRJ so the CRJ FO's will upgrade quicker. At least, that's the theory...

I like hand flying the plane anyway.
I think you're misunderstanding the seniority system a bit. The time it takes to upgrade to CA has no relation to the airframe you're on. Once your seniority number can hold upgrade, you can upgrade.

However, you are correct in that we see very few, if any FOs moving from the 175 to the RJ (partly because the 175s are still new here and very few 175 guys are off seat lock.) The movement is all from the RJ to the 175. So it is true that your relative seniority in domicile (not your company wide seniority, which determines upgrade), will be better on the RJ since more FOs above you will be moving to the 175. You might see better schedules faster on the RJ, but not upgrade.

As for hand flying, the only thing the 175 has that the RJ doesn't is auto throttles. On both planes, the AP comes on a few minutes after TO and comes off shortly before landing, usually once established straight in on an approach. You won't hand fly either airplane more than the other.
Old 08-31-2015 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mrcdkit90
I have been hearing people say I should go with 175 because it is more popular among airlines and because it is more technologically advanced.. JB22 says it will him get to the majors quicker. Anyone else would confirm this?
I can confirm this is total BS. Pick the one which will get you based nearest where you want to live. If you don't care where you live, but want seniority progression in seat pick the CRJ. If you want to fast-track your career, take the first class date they offer.
Old 08-31-2015 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
On both planes, the AP comes on a few minutes after TO and comes off shortly before landing, usually once established straight in on an approach. You won't hand fly either airplane more than the other.
Culture is what you make of it. Push the damn-fool button, and fly the airplane. The only requirement is AP on above FL200, unless it is deferred all together then RVSM rules apply.
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