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Old 08-28-2015 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
So on top of the 160 FO's we have listed as TRG, you are saying we have an additional 100 or so that are assigned domiciles but not on the line yet? And that doesn't include the CA's that are in training as well. Just seems like if you start to add it up, you can see why we are still hurting with coverage. And on top of that, we have FO's that are not getting displaced from their trips with LCA's. I guess I just need to stop trying to see the big picture.
That sounds right to me. I know they say they are playing catch up to get all the new hires and new captains through IOE, but something is going on in MSP. The last eflyer said and many gate agents have confirmed that delta is going to remove the odd numbered B gates this fall in order to accommodate 700's and 900's at the A gates in the alleyway. I've heard rumors that this is where the Alaska 700's will end up, but I've also heard that they are just being parked. In any case, I can only imagine that it will be a reduction in 200 flying.

I don't think delta can bring on anymore 76 seaters right? Or at least not many, that's why the 200's are still flying as much as they are, there's just nothing to replace them yet.
Old 08-28-2015 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mobius27
That sounds right to me. I know they say they are playing catch up to get all the new hires and new captains through IOE, but something is going on in MSP. The last eflyer said and many gate agents have confirmed that delta is going to remove the odd numbered B gates this fall in order to accommodate 700's and 900's at the A gates in the alleyway. I've heard rumors that this is where the Alaska 700's will end up, but I've also heard that they are just being parked. In any case, I can only imagine that it will be a reduction in 200 flying.

I don't think delta can bring on anymore 76 seaters right? Or at least not many, that's why the 200's are still flying as much as they are, there's just nothing to replace them yet.
Alaska and Horizon own or lease all but one of the "alaska 700's" operated by OO. Those will not be flying for anyone else.
Old 08-28-2015 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TheTransporter
Alaska and Horizon own or lease all but one of the "alaska 700's" operated by OO. Those will not be flying for anyone else.
That's true, but SkyWest does own a bunch of 700s that are due to come off contract at United very soon. So there's that.
Old 08-29-2015 | 04:20 AM
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Skywest is double unless you pay extra.
Thanks. Found it on the website too. A little surprised.
Old 08-29-2015 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
So on top of the 160 FO's we have listed as TRG, you are saying we have an additional 100 or so that are assigned domiciles but not on the line yet? And that doesn't include the CA's that are in training as well. Just seems like if you start to add it up, you can see why we are still hurting with coverage. And on top of that, we have FO's that are not getting displaced from their trips with LCA's. I guess I just need to stop trying to see the big picture.
Yes, there are 210 FOs listed at MSP. The May and June hires start around 117-210, and the majority of those are still in IOE. Half of those should be off of IOE sometime this month or so.
Old 08-29-2015 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
Maybe you can help with this discrepancy? When does the new hire, upgrades, ect.. change bases? For example, the DVR for MSP shows 211 active FO's but September's MSP bid only had 114. It says expected is supposed to be 253 for next month. I know we have some people on leave and in training, but does SGU really think we have 100 more pilots in base than what is bidding? There has to be some type of disconnect between V when she is doing the DVR and what is really in base??

Good news is that maybe MSP will have some reserves next month, bad news is we still won't be able to improve our schedules with drops or trades.
This is a wide spread anomaly right now, ORD is the same, we have something like 165 CA listed on the new DVR, I know 1-125 are qualified, the rest are in IOE, theres a few that are coming to ORD that are in TRG and then some that got awarded. Some people are on the seniority list from the moment they join class, some aren't till midway through IOE, its not a conspiracy that they think some will pass and some will fail its just the way it happens. For some reason they are dumping 42 FOs in MSP on the new DVR I think we can all agree that something is happening in ORD and MSP, staffing is way up.

I would say we are getting United flying in the very near future, part of the 18 they added, I would speculate at least 10 of those are going to LAX since no one has mentioned anything about displacing the crews that were flying the Eagle stuff there.

I would also suggest that American flying is very likely on the 175 with the uncertainty of RAH.
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
... its not a conspiracy that they think some will pass and some will fail its just the way it happens. For some reason they are dumping 42 FOs in MSP on the new DVR I think we can all agree that something is happening in ORD and MSP, staffing is way up.
I don't think it's a conspiracy in any way. I just think it is an anomaly that on our DVR we report 100% more pilots in a base than what are currently bidding. I know this is why we are not doing any upgrades for 2 months. Question is, what are we doing to our present behavior for different results in the future? LCA's are hard to train and get on the line. I'm sure we have a pretty good chunk of the 400 Delta pilots swimming in the pool, not to mention the other airlines we are losing pilots too (Allegiant, United, UPS, ect..) So we stop upgrades for 2 months to catch up with FO's, but then we get behind on CA's. I know during the pay package votes SGU needed to say everything was fine so we didn't think we had any type of upper hand, but it would be nice for someone to acknowledge that we are behind. When nothing is said it seems like either you are hiding things or don't know. Either option is bad for our leadership.

Originally Posted by Squallrider
I would say we are getting United flying in the very near future, part of the 18 they added, I would speculate at least 10 of those are going to LAX since no one has mentioned anything about displacing the crews that were flying the Eagle stuff there.

I would also suggest that American flying is very likely on the 175 with the uncertainty of RAH.
There is no doubt we are planning on getting more flying. Either from someone losing it or other flying to be awarded. But I don't look at that as a good thing. I would love to be able to cover our current flying without running everyone at 110%. When that happens, I will be glad to see more flying coming our way.
Old 08-29-2015 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
Base only has about 50 pilots on the RJ, but that is more than we had at the beginning of the year with RJ and EMB combined. Not sure what the trips are like (majority 4 days like every other base?) but 2/15 hire is the plug.
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Old 08-29-2015 | 08:12 AM
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All, I am in the 26 Oct class and was wondering about two things. First, what headset do you recommend for the CRJ.
Second, how do you all log time? Logbook, App? If app, which one?

Thanks in advance....
Old 08-29-2015 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTransporter
Alaska and Horizon own or lease all but one of the "alaska 700's" operated by OO. Those will not be flying for anyone else.
That's not true.
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