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Old 07-25-2015 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Caution Terrain
.Or we can place ourselves in a holding pattern.
Scary. Hopefully it's below 28,000ft.
Old 07-25-2015 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
Who fed you this line of bull? And you bought it?
You can read it on the SAPA forum..........or maybe you can't!
Old 07-25-2015 | 05:33 AM
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All the people that are screaming no from the rooftops are senior people that won't be affected by a downsizing of the airline, they are most likely captains already and won't be downgraded. They don't care about FOs on first year pay or that new flying can lead to more upgrades and career progression, they'd wager anything for another dollar a hour. You can clearly see in the info packet Skywest is quite a bit more expensive than other operators, compass etc are a much junior pilot group. Now I know some senior as dirt people will say downsize if you must to give us more pay, but there are people below you that are actually affected by that and that do want to leave Skywest. IF You want really pay go to mainline, if you aren't going to mainline because of your QOL you are trading in pay for that. The regional business model as a contractor is based on cost and if we cost too much we downsize and become Comair, Expressjet etc etc. Wake up people, our hourly rates are competitive, if you want QOL improvements such as more reserve (ability to drop trips, get vacation etc) then you need new hires.

If you vote no at least tell your reps what you want to see improved, think QOL over hourly because our hourly isn't going to change.

If you want the raise management got by all means try get into management, I'm sure there's a director of director titles opening or something to that effect posted
Old 07-25-2015 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
No. Never. If I have a ticket and there's a js, then I sit in the back...except in STL. Unfortunately our contract says that DH pilots may be required to sit in the jump seat and the gate agents know this. The captain would have to deny me but most don't get it.
***? Where on earth does it say this? I have never once been forced to sit up there and would refuse if asked.
Old 07-25-2015 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by soakingpilot
Anyone know how many F/Os are still getting displaced from trips? If I do get the call that says Im getting displaced Im still collecting credit if Im correct and can also pick up open time as well ie double time.
soakingpilot, you really need to pick up the PPM and read some of the rules. I am displaced 110% of the time I have a trip with a check airmen (standups excluded). Yes you are pay protected for the trip.
Old 07-25-2015 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Revenue, I was talking about getting non-revs on. I was also talking about having the Capt. onboard with the plan. Who, if he had a spine (is that not how it goes down at XJ?) could fix it in a jiffy.

Doesn't matter. Point is that if the gate agent doesn't want to unseat the person, you may lose out on getting on the flight. Whatever, I don't care. I'm just telling you what I saw happen once.
Old 07-25-2015 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Caution Terrain
We have a J/S committee that will be interested nonetheless.

We also have things like HIMS as a non Union carrier.

-break-

*** Mike?
So we’re at a bit of a crossroads. We have the opportunity to take the next important step forward. Or we can place ourselves in a holding pattern.

Just to clarify, HIMS is a federal program that exists and is funded appropriately because of ALPA and other unions, much like the ability for AOL pilots being able to use the JS, and known crew member, and countless other things.
Old 07-25-2015 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
***? Where on earth does it say this? I have never once been forced to sit up there and would refuse if asked.
It's in the TSA contract.
Old 07-25-2015 | 06:01 AM
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So I just got my offer and was asked what airframe I wanted. They seem to be the same to me, other then the delta benefits. Any +\- on the two?
Old 07-25-2015 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by WaterRooster
So I just got my offer and was asked what airframe I wanted. They seem to be the same to me, other then the delta benefits. Any +\- on the two?
Personally I think the 175 is better. The trips seem to be higher credit and once off first year pay the hourly rate is higher than the 200 which is what you will most likely be flying as a junior FO unless you get IAH. A big factor is where you want to be based, the 175 has fewer options than CRJ with ORD being the most likely place but other bases aren't unattainable.
Another factor is should you still be here for upgrade, the 175 seems to be the future for this company/industry, it is a lot easier to upgrade on a aircraft you've flown before. The ERJ is slightly junior to the CRJ (a month or two) at the moment, subject to change of course.
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