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Old 07-24-2015 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
No. Never. If I have a ticket and there's a js, then I sit in the back...except in STL. Unfortunately our contract says that DH pilots may be required to sit in the jump seat and the gate agents know this.
That's f'd up man! Even at YV we don't do that. Ever.
Old 07-24-2015 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
That's f'd up man! Even at YV we don't do that. Ever.
I don't know what to tell you. It's there. And they have no problem calling a chief pilot. It's pretty Fd up.
Old 07-24-2015 | 12:43 PM
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The gate agents can force a deadheading SkyWest pilot to sit in the jump seat on a SkyWest operated flight only. I haven't had it happen to me in about 10 years, but it's possible. Most of the time it isn't an issue though. Most pilots will do it if it means getting another person on the flight.
Old 07-24-2015 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
You should NEVER take the jumpseat as a deadheading crewmember, ever.
Eh. If the Captain is ok with it and it helps get another non-rev on I'd absolutely consider it. As long as someone else isn't listed. Good vibes my brotha, maybe I've helped someone's hood rat flying on a buddy pass get home to big daddy ya know??
Old 07-24-2015 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Utah
The gate agents can force a deadheading SkyWest pilot to sit in the jump seat on a SkyWest operated flight only. I haven't had it happen to me in about 10 years, but it's possible. Most of the time it isn't an issue though. Most pilots will do it if it means getting another person on the flight.
Yeah...the issue is that it knocked a commuting pilot off the jump and left the guy stranded. Now that is cold and spineless.
Old 07-24-2015 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
Yeah...the issue is that it knocked a commuting pilot off the jump and left the guy stranded. That's just cold and spineless.
I agree. It's a bunch of BS.
Old 07-24-2015 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Eh. If the Captain is ok with it and it helps get another non-rev on I'd absolutely consider it. As long as someone else isn't listed. Good vibes my brotha, maybe I've helped someone's hood rat flying on a buddy pass get home to big daddy ya know??
Exactly right FB. As long as you're not bumping a pilot out of the JS, I'll take it on a case by case basis. For instance, my wife was stuck in Ohare and getting bumped from every flight (over booked United). She was to the point of tears, and I felt helpless; although, i fully realize the nature of standby. Thank goodness another pilot had sympathy and took the Jumpseat, so my wife could get the last seat in the back. For that reason, I'll always try and pay it forward.
Old 07-24-2015 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
Pilots vote on pay and on reps from their region. The 19 reps are supposed to vote based on what their region wants. The only problem is there is never any communication about what is being voted on so we can contact our reps to voice our opinion. SAPA is way to quick with "gives" to the company to help align the policy with what the company is doing. Usually to the detriment of the pilots.



But anything the pilots want, even if it is mutually beneficial, is pushed aside or we are told there is no time or resources. (Virtual domiciles, reserve proffering, trip stacking)

Why wouldn't the reps want their constituents to know the by-law changes they are voting on? The only way they know how the pilots feel about that is if they know ahead of time the proposed changes.
Old 07-24-2015 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
Just curious, what is your pilot group's stance on a deadheading crewmember taking the jumpseat? I witnessed this twice in the last week, both were SKW employees. One was on a flight I was working out of LAX, which the captain shot down immediately. The other instance, a Skywest operated flight, bumped a commuting pilot off the jumpseat on the last flight of the day, leaving the individual stranded for the night. I realize there is no union there to provide direction on the issue, but is the pilot group really cool with that?

This is a big no-no at ALPA carriers, and can put your company's JS agreement in jeopardy. Especially when a commuting pilot gets bumped by someone who should be a ticketed passenger in the back.
I was working a flight where this happened recently. Skywest pilot wanting to get to training so he asked for the JS. I guess he really wanted to get to training an hour earlier rather than taking the next one. Apparently both flights were oversold. Personally, I would've just gone back home if I got bumped off both flights and let scheduling know, but whatever.



Originally Posted by Utah
The gate agents can force a deadheading SkyWest pilot to sit in the jump seat on a SkyWest operated flight only. I haven't had it happen to me in about 10 years, but it's possible. Most of the time it isn't an issue though. Most pilots will do it if it means getting another person on the flight.

Your captains lose authority on their own JS?

Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Eh. If the Captain is ok with it and it helps get another non-rev on I'd absolutely consider it. As long as someone else isn't listed. Good vibes my brotha, maybe I've helped someone's hood rat flying on a buddy pass get home to big daddy ya know??

I saw this happen once where there was no commuters trying to get on so the DH took the JS. Then a commuter showed and bumped the JS since he was he took priority. DH trying to take the JS got screwed because the gate agent wouldn't unseat the revenue passenger that got his seat.
Old 07-24-2015 | 04:04 PM
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"Your captains lose authority on their own JS?"

The gate agents will ask the captains if they can take a jump seater first. It's up to the captain to go up to the gate and figure out what's going on beyond that.
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