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Old 09-02-2015 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RedBeardedPilot
Ok, so I'm dumb. What does EFB stand for? I've known it as electronic flight bag, but seems like it has a different meaning here. Why is EFB going to put everyone on reserve?
As zondaracer said, I've heard the issue stems from disagreements over whether the company can use the EFB to push schedule changes to pilots, or not. EFBs won't be deployed until this issue is resolved.
Old 09-02-2015 | 09:55 AM
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When SAPA gives the company EFB notification, everyone will be on reserve. Skywest reserve is a special corner of hell.
On the 8/24 conference call, I asked our new pres. about any proposed/pending notification policy. He said the EFB policy did NOT allow for reflow notification, and SAPA did not have any notification policy close to being final... I admit, it would be nice to see for ourselves what the EFB policy that's on TG's desk says.
Old 09-02-2015 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by futurav8r
On the 8/24 conference call, I asked our new pres. about any proposed/pending notification policy. He said the EFB policy did NOT allow for reflow notification, and SAPA did not have any notification policy close to being final... I admit, it would be nice to see for ourselves what the EFB policy that's on TG's desk says.
The last EFB policy proposal was posted on the SAPA site maybe 2 months ago in its entirety. I can't be sure, but am fairly confident that it's the same proposal sitting on TG's desk right now.

I distinctly remember the proposal being posted in its entirety on the SAPA site, but good luck finding it now on that sorry excuse mess of a web site.
Old 09-02-2015 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SMACFUM
The last EFB policy proposal was posted on the SAPA site maybe 2 months ago in its entirety. I can't be sure, but am fairly confident that it's the same proposal sitting on TG's desk right now.

I distinctly remember the proposal being posted in its entirety on the SAPA site, but good luck finding it now on that sorry excuse mess of a web site.
Actually, I just did a simple search on the SAPA site and was able to find it. It's dated April 8th 2015.

Quoted directly from the policy proposal:

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1) Use of the EFB during operation will be in accordance with applicable federal aviation regulations (FARs) and Company policy at all times.
2) No pilot will be required to acknowledge scheduling changes on the EFB nor will EFB functionality be limited by the Company for failure to acknowledge notification until a mutually agreed upon reflow/rescheduling policy with SAPA can be developed.
Old 09-02-2015 | 10:41 AM
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When do you think the vacancy award will publish?
Old 09-02-2015 | 11:09 AM
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They publish awards as they go. It takes a few days at first but they start doing awards maybe 3-4 days after close?


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Old 09-02-2015 | 11:48 AM
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When do you think the vacancy award will publish?
They just started today, so far one bid awarded haha
Old 09-02-2015 | 01:33 PM
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I know ORD was showing 0 but I'm trying to tx there from SFO.
Old 09-02-2015 | 02:07 PM
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Even if it shows 0 vacancies, you can still get in if someone transfers out.


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Old 09-02-2015 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SMACFUM
Actually, I just did a simple search on the SAPA site and was able to find it. It's dated April 8th 2015.

Quoted directly from the policy proposal:

G. Device Usage
1) Use of the EFB during operation will be in accordance with applicable federal aviation regulations (FARs) and Company policy at all times.
2) No pilot will be required to acknowledge scheduling changes on the EFB nor will EFB functionality be limited by the Company for failure to acknowledge notification until a mutually agreed upon reflow/rescheduling policy with SAPA can be developed.
My guess is that the TA from 5 months ago is way different from the one on TG's desk. One SAPA rep basically said it is pointless for us to keep trying to play hide and seek, and that they will get us if they want and we should try to get SOME pay for getting reflowed.

I am willing to give the benefit of doubt to see what we get, but I have quit holding my breath that the company will do what's right. Operational performance is the top priority right now, so they could give a crap less if they are taking you off your good overnight or making your rest go from 18 hours to 10. Again, all this would be avoided if they would just make it worth our time. It is a junior man assignment and should be treated as such. Or they can higher more pilots and use reserves for more than OBR. There may be an underlying issue of why nobody wants to help out anymore. Maybe that should tell them something??
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