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Old 09-29-2015, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina View Post
....and I wonder how many of them even have their upgrade bid set to 'ANY' domicile. In my domicile, virtually all of the senior FOs have their upgrade bid limited to that domicile. So it'll be a while.

I'm also amazed at how many very, very senior FOs we have. As in, guys with employee numbers in the 4 digits. These guys have to have been here for 15+ years and they're still FOs. I mean, I get that being the #1 FO in base makes life sweet, but...with those kind of employee numbers, you could become like the #3 captain in base right away. I don't get it....
I get it. How much is your quality of life worth to you? After three years, the extra $1000 a month after taxes to sit reserve as a Captain, and possibly commute for the pleasure of doing so... Not everyone is willing to sell their souls for that. Same reason plenty of people are remaining here rather than racing to UAL.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:19 AM
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I get it. How much is your quality of life worth to you? After three years, the extra $1000 a month after taxes to sit reserve as a Captain, and possibly commute for the pleasure of doing so... Not everyone is willing to sell their souls for that. Same reason plenty of people are remaining here rather than racing to UAL.
May as well get out when you can. Sooner or later regionals will be a tiny area of flying if they even exist at all. Then you'll be going to the bottom of a list that you could have moved to years ago. Regionals are purely waiting grounds until a proper job comes along. I am out as soon as I can. The more of you who stay behind waiting for things to get better, the better!

Ground school is going well. waiting to see how many more people wash out.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:28 AM
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May as well get out when you can. Sooner or later regionals will be a tiny area of flying if they even exist at all. Then you'll be going to the bottom of a list that you could have moved to years ago. Regionals are purely waiting grounds until a proper job comes along. I am out as soon as I can. The more of you who stay behind waiting for things to get better, the better!

Ground school is going well. waiting to see how many more people wash out.
I love how you make it sound like all of the regional pilots north of you on the senority list are just wasting their time because they are not already at a major.

You are not even done with training and you are 3700 on the list. You have at least 3 years before upgrade if everything continues in the regional world.

If this wonderful shrinkage comes to light that you speak of you might just find yourself stuck in the right side of an RJ for a very long time.

The word at United is the 40 700's up for United are not getting renewed. With those 40 aircraft your seniority went way south. Just a thought....
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:31 AM
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The word at United is the 40 700's up for United are not getting renewed. With those 40 aircraft your seniority went way south. Just a thought....
Sounds like more E-175s on the way then.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:39 AM
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Sounds like more E-175s on the way then.
Hahahahahh. That's funny. The 18 we were just awarded aren't even showing up till the end of next year, and United is scoped out until they add more aircraft.
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:23 AM
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Also, instructors lose their instructor position if they upgrade so there are a few SLC FO's who would rather stay in SLC as an instructor than upgrade and lose their instructor position and change bases.
It's all about the money!

The training department has seriously taken a step back lately.

Also heard that AQP will now be every 9 months instead of annually because of FAA safety concerns.

It's all about the money, going cheap is sometimes expensive?
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:36 AM
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Hahahahahh. That's funny. The 18 we were just awarded aren't even showing up till the end of next year, and United is scoped out until they add more aircraft.
The 700 and the 175 are the same plane in the eyes of their scope clause correct? (76 seats to 50) so if we lose 700's we do have the possibility of getting 175s to replace them.
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by IFLYPLANEZBRO View Post
The 700 and the 175 are the same plane in the eyes of their scope clause correct? (76 seats to 50) so if we lose 700's we do have the possibility of getting 175s to replace them.
Yes, United is now scoped out on the amount of large RJs (70-76 seats) they can have, and the only way United can now add more E-175s is by reducing the amount of 70-seaters on a 1:1 swap.
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:47 AM
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Yes, United is now scoped out on the amount of large RJs (70-76 seats) they can have, and the only way United can now add more E-175s is by reducing the amount of 70-seaters on a 1:1 swap.
Is the 175 that much more desirable than the -700? Seems like the -700 is the best, most versatile jet in the fleet.

That said I never have flown the 175.
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Is offline View Post
I love how you make it sound like all of the regional pilots north of you on the senority list are just wasting their time because they are not already at a major.

You are not even done with training and you are 3700 on the list. You have at least 3 years before upgrade if everything continues in the regional world.

If this wonderful shrinkage comes to light that you speak of you might just find yourself stuck in the right side of an RJ for a very long time.

The word at United is the 40 700's up for United are not getting renewed. With those 40 aircraft your seniority went way south. Just a thought....
Is offline is correct. Lots of 700s going away. UA added 25 320s to the mainline fleet which start arriving next year. Ther is a reduction planned of up to 40% regional feed over the next 3 years as mainline absorbs flying back into the fold. Don't hold your breath for much in the way of additional flying. From here on its a downward path.
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