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Old 11-03-2015, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold View Post
Is the training insufficient or were they slacking off and wanting to be spoon fed and it didnt happen?
You have to study. Since Camille was canned the training department has been given the honors of thinning the herd of unsats and attitude problem children. Getting hired with a pulse and ability to fog a mirror means you get to try and keep your job, if you don't try they will drop you without even blinking. Making probation is no guarantee either, bad attitudes on line means CPs get phone calls from CAs and the fuse is lit.
The training dept had if good in days past, Camille would send them the pick of the litter, now mins mean a job, but keeping it is a little more complex.
No Union means zero procedural protections, i.e, bad attitude + mistake = possible job loss.
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by telejet View Post
If the other 59 people figured out how to pass, that makes me think its not a training department issue
The test is a minimum effort bar, make it over(pass) means the basics are met. If you can't scrape the that test into a pass column, the sims and/or line will spit you out.
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom View Post
You have to study. Since Camille was canned the training department has been given the honors of thinning the herd of unsats and attitude problem children. Getting hired with a pulse and ability to fog a mirror means you get to try and keep your job, if you don't try they will drop you without even blinking. Making probation is no guarantee either, bad attitudes on line means CPs get phone calls from CAs and the fuse is lit.
The training dept had if good in days past, Camille would send them the pick of the litter, now mins mean a job, but keeping it is a little more complex.
No Union means zero procedural protections, i.e, bad attitude + mistake = possible job loss.
Unions don't normally do much for new hires anyway. That's in everybody's best interest...union doesn't want to be obligated to stand up for someone who had no business flying airliners in the first place.
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Old 11-03-2015, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter View Post
It's not, they still give three strikes and up to 10 hours of extra sim time before punching someone out, which is borderline insane.

I just talked to an RJ newb that said a few of the guys busted the indoc test, EPL, finally Systems and got the hammer. Failing one of those tests is bad. Failing one after another? Yeowza. Have fun at Mesa.
Overheard an IOE captain saying in the crew room one class ended losing 14 guys.
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Old 11-03-2015, 08:23 AM
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I'm putting in for LCA. Might as well get paid for it.
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Old 11-03-2015, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Drums4life View Post
Overheard an IOE captain saying in the crew room one class ended losing 14 guys.
Over the last 4 months we have lost 41 pilots that were still listed as TRG in the seniority list when they dropped off. There may have been more that were already assigned a domicile. But that 41 is still about 25% of all the FO's we are losing.
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Old 11-03-2015, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned View Post
Over the last 4 months we have lost 41 pilots that were still listed as TRG in the seniority list when they dropped off. There may have been more that were already assigned a domicile. But that 41 is still about 25% of all the FO's we are losing.

They can also be noshows. A guy from my class didn't show and they erased him from them list 3 weeks after.


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Old 11-03-2015, 09:34 AM
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Can anyone tell me upcoming class dates for the CRJ and ERJ. Also how long is current reserve times at Chicago for both those aircraft?

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Old 11-03-2015, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by skypimp92 View Post
Can anyone tell me upcoming class dates for the CRJ and ERJ. Also how long is current reserve times at Chicago for both those aircraft?

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Crj - October 26 nov 23 dec 28
erj- October 29 November 12 and 26 December 24.

Reserve time crj maybe two months idk about erj. Supposedly perpetual reserve for a new guy
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Old 11-03-2015, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by IFLYPLANEZBRO View Post
Crj - October 26 nov 23 dec 28
erj- October 29 November 12 and 26 December 24.

Reserve time crj maybe two months idk about erj. Supposedly perpetual reserve for a new guy
Heh seriously considering now an application into republic if the perpetual reserve holds
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