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Old 12-15-2013, 10:52 AM
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Thanks again for all the good info.

Thats pretty amazing they are sending recruiters into class. I think moving up 25 a month is a pretty brisk pace for the hiring department.
Movement is definitely great for those FOs wanting a line. But don't come to Skywest expecting to make captain.

For those pilots joining Skywest, there is a great chance you will never upgrade. Looking at aircraft coming off contract and the amount of lifers this company has, count on not upgrading.

If you want a somewhat stable FO job with a decent paycheck, Skywest is a great company.
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:12 AM
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Id have to disagree with you on that one. Guys are upgrading right now after 7 years or so. That should drop to 4 to 5 based on current events. If the regional pilot shortage camp is correct it may drop to what it was in 04 at 1 or 2 years.

But who knows
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by skiK2 View Post
Movement is definitely great for those FOs wanting a line. But don't come to Skywest expecting to make captain.

For those pilots joining Skywest, there is a great chance you will never upgrade. Looking at aircraft coming off contract and the amount of lifers this company has, count on not upgrading.

If you want a somewhat stable FO job with a decent paycheck, Skywest is a great company.
"Somewhat stable FO job"?

I don't think SkyWest has ever furloughed and it doesn't seem like furloughs are likely anywhere anytime soon. What would the unstable part of being a FO at SkyWest?
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Denver


Thanks again for all the good info.

Thats pretty amazing they are sending recruiters into class. I think moving up 25 a month is a pretty brisk pace for the hiring department.




Movement is definitely great for those FOs wanting a line. But don't come to Skywest expecting to make captain.

For those pilots joining Skywest, there is a great chance you will never upgrade. Looking at aircraft coming off contract and the amount of lifers this company has, count on not upgrading.

If you want a somewhat stable FO job with a decent paycheck, Skywest is a great company.
I 100% disagree with this statement
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:24 AM
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Upgrade and TPIC shouldn't even matter anymore. Everyone except SWA is hiring guys without TPIC.
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Old 12-15-2013, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Denver View Post
Id have to disagree with you on that one. Guys are upgrading right now after 7 years or so. That should drop to 4 to 5 based on current events. If the regional pilot shortage camp is correct it may drop to what it was in 04 at 1 or 2 years.

But who knows
I've been here 6 years and have 900-1000 guys below me. I can't hold emb captain anywhere. At least 200 numbers away for crj for msp/ord and that doesn't count the 100's of guys that have bids in for lax, Slc, den, sea, only. We're upgrading 5 or so emb a month and about 10 rj a month. We have no communication from management on what the projections are, so the music could stop at any time. We have a ton of airframes coming off contract in the next 3 years and not all will be renewed.
So anyone hired today will have at least 1000 guys itching to upgrade in front of them, a lot of captains not going anywhere (at least 500 but probably way more), and a shrinking airline in the next 3 years. Although upgrade time might drop I doubt it will drop to 1-2 years. These are just facts.
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Old 12-15-2013, 12:54 PM
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It looks like the most junior upgrade (EMB) in the last bid was a 6/2012 hire.
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Old 12-15-2013, 01:05 PM
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When someone says they have been at SkyWest 6+ years and "can't upgrade" thats code for could have but choose not too, and that was a mistake.. I would say upgrade times will drop in 2014 as the E175 comes online... Then will steady in 2015...
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Originally Posted by hoodabundy View Post
It looks like the most junior upgrade (EMB) in the last bid was a 6/2012 hire.
I'm not sure what you are looking at but that isn't even close to being correct
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Old 12-15-2013, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by hoodabundy View Post
It looks like the most junior upgrade (EMB) in the last bid was a 6/2012 hire.
Unless by upgrade you mean transition
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