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03-20-2018 | 12:13 PM
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Thanks, I’m very lucky that this happened in the current hiring environment. If It would have been 2012 or earlier, I’m fairly certain I wouldn’t be in the cockpit of a 121 carrier right now.
03-20-2018 | 03:17 PM
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This is exactly why we need a policy that is applied uniformly, not being crushed when TG or some other Chief is ****ed. Or some other guy gets away with everything because he's a but kisser. The reason the company has it this way so they can use it to their advantage when want to target an individual. If the union drive ever gets any traction, the company will find out who's volunteering and punish them as they see fit because there is no policy.
03-20-2018 | 04:40 PM
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Wasnt trying to accuse you of anything nefarious or sketchy. Popnfresh beat me to it. That is exactly what i was going to say as well as the sick calls. Was purely trying to get the point across that SKW doesn't can someone for one missed commute. TG wanted to make an example out of someone. Im also glad you landed on your feet so quickly without a long down time!
03-20-2018 | 04:43 PM
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Wasnt trying to accuse you of anything nefarious or sketchy. Popnfresh beat me to it. That is exactly what i was going to say as well as the sick calls. Was purely trying to get the point across that SKW doesn't can someone for one missed commute. TG wanted to make an example out of someone. Im also glad you landed on your feet so quickly without a long down time!
03-20-2018 | 05:37 PM
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Wasnt trying to accuse you of anything nefarious or sketchy. Popnfresh beat me to it. That is exactly what i was going to say as well as the sick calls. Was purely trying to get the point across that SKW doesn't can someone for one missed commute. TG wanted to make an example out of someone. Im also glad you landed on your feet so quickly without a long down time!
Not trying to knock SkyWest at all, it was a solid place I thought but I will be happy to go the rest of my career without running into the guy that wanted to make an example of me
03-21-2018 | 09:18 AM
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Well SkyWest technically did can me for one missed commute, but then “allowed me to resign”. I never missed a commute prior to that. Also, didn’t know they could use my sick calls that I’m lawfully meant to make if I’m not fit to fly an airplane against me in a situation where I gave myself not 1, not 2 but 4 initial flights to get to work.. I get what you’re saying but trust me, without a policy SkyWest can fire you for anything really, and that’s what the SAPA guys told me. The funniest thing is I was advised I should have just called in sick by multiple people, that’s a great culture to have at an airline... :/
Not trying to knock SkyWest at all, it was a solid place I thought but I will be happy to go the rest of my career without running into the guy that wanted to make an example of me
Not trying to knock SkyWest at all, it was a solid place I thought but I will be happy to go the rest of my career without running into the guy that wanted to make an example of me
For others, if you miss a commute, call in honest, not sick. Sick days are not personal days at SKW. That way if they're short on reserves they can work with you to get you where they need you to be.
03-21-2018 | 04:42 PM
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So now Mesa even had a "flow" program. Yes I know it's not a true flow like the AA wholy owned 's, but every carrier that has a CPP/Flow/ preferential interview etc. puts us at a disadvantage. 1) Class spots at XYX major are harder to come by as a percentage will be filled by those people. 2) If a pilot wanted to go to an airline that we had an agreement with, it would help with senority stagnation at the top aka lifers 3) Another reason to go somewhere else.
I know that flow/Cpp programs are sold as something awesome, yet the data shows it takes a while, however it's a nice thing to have in your back pocket/ another tool in the tool box.
Mesa gets one, yet we as the largest regional out there have nothing
I know that flow/Cpp programs are sold as something awesome, yet the data shows it takes a while, however it's a nice thing to have in your back pocket/ another tool in the tool box.
Mesa gets one, yet we as the largest regional out there have nothing
03-21-2018 | 05:03 PM
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“Why limit yourself to one major airline”. -SkyWest
Which really translate to
You’re on your own Sh*tbags
Which really translate to
You’re on your own Sh*tbags
03-21-2018 | 08:01 PM
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Sadly, there many here that have little to no industry knowledge of what other airlines have. The sheep of Utah believe what their management tells them!
03-22-2018 | 07:53 AM
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Don't disagree with this as at all, flow is good, and should be pursued. BUT, I do wonder what happens as the pilot shortage worsens and majors feel pressure to keep their regionals manned? For example, the recent past with Horizon. Their must have been pressure on AS to NOT poach their own Horizon guys. I have heard Horizon pilots say something to that effect that they feel they are at a disadvantage getting hired at AS.
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So now Mesa even had a "flow" program. Yes I know it's not a true flow like the AA wholy owned 's, but every carrier that has a CPP/Flow/ preferential interview etc. puts us at a disadvantage. 1) Class spots at XYX major are harder to come by as a percentage will be filled by those people. 2) If a pilot wanted to go to an airline that we had an agreement with, it would help with senority stagnation at the top aka lifers 3) Another reason to go somewhere else.
I know that flow/Cpp programs are sold as something awesome, yet the data shows it takes a while, however it's a nice thing to have in your back pocket/ another tool in the tool box.
Mesa gets one, yet we as the largest regional out there have nothing
I know that flow/Cpp programs are sold as something awesome, yet the data shows it takes a while, however it's a nice thing to have in your back pocket/ another tool in the tool box.
Mesa gets one, yet we as the largest regional out there have nothing
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