I suspect:
1 they want 175 capability in-house. It will attract SJS applicants
2 Compass will eventually lose the DL contract.
3 they need a 2nd west coast player and don't want to put all eggs in the OO basket. Can you imagine the pull of a 9E west coast option with 175? I assume they rather task 9E with it than YX.

 

Upgrades are on a different footprint then NH’s. Less sims/grnd. So yes. No CA/FO pair unless they are “transition” upgrades. And going through the full course.. we even have a few NH short course guys. (Already typed in the CRJ)

 

Imagine what we could do with real representation?

 

I still cannot believe the last TA passed. The lifers got their higher 401k and the rest of us got nothing. All we heard from both the company and our SAPA president was the idea of growth, fast upgrades, and the health of the company. Well, less than a year later we have a net loss of 8 pilots and the company metering upgrades. 83 pilots gone and, to me, the real telling part is 46% of them were FOs. The DVR said there were 40 captain slots open this month and only 25 were awarded.

So much for growth.

 

Any rough idea how long it would take a new-hire to ATL to be able to hold a line there?

What is the best metric to look at to determine stuff like that? (I'm new to the 121 world).

 

It truly is a new world. With companies like Spirit willing to hire FOs to be THEIR FOs with rates like this, we'll soon see everyone leave as soon as they have the requisite 1000 or 1500 hours of 121 time:

Is Hiring?: Yes
Hiring 60/month, 22 upgrades. Classes every two weeks.

Apply online.

Minimums: 2,000 Total Time in Fixed Wing Aircraft 1,000 Multi-engine Aircraft

Preferred: 3,000 Total Time in Fixed Wing Aircraft 1,500 in multi-engine, multi-crew, turboprop or jet aircraft

Spirit interview gouge.
FO Payscale:

4 119 119 119
3 112 112 112
2 104 104 104
1 56 56 56


12 year CA DOS +4 is $260/hr

12 year FO DOS +4 is $172/hr

Monthly guarantee: 72 hours
Reserve guarantee: 72 hours

Open time pick-up pays 100%
Junior Assignment pays 200%

International pay override is 8%.

Pay rates for A319/A320/A321. Rates do not include 2% A321 override which is received for every hour of credit regardless of which aircraft you fly.

Most junior captain hired June, 2015 (ACY)

PER DIEM
$2.25

RETIREMENT
401K:

401k Matching: No

11% direct contribution ; 1% increase per year to 15%.

401K Matching: Yes

A/B Fund:

none

 

While I don’t disagree with most of what you said, I see 33 upgrades awarded. DVR vacancies are not just upgrades. Transfer/transitions take up some of that while allowing other bases to right size (shrink).

 

Could you elaborate on this any more? I'm a pretty vocal pro-union guy. However, I've always always had a high level of respect for upper management here. I have a hard time believing they would be stupid enough to make (illegal) threats about job status.

 

Right to work state equals legal

 

I'm pro union too, PM sent.