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Old 04-12-2018, 12:43 PM
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Today's events went about exactly as I expected.
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Old 04-12-2018, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hawk21 View Post
Today's events went about exactly as I expected.
Yup.

I am sure the company wants to give raises to FOs and little to nothing to CA.

The thing they fear the most is the backlash from the mid-seniority CA that have little/no QoL and middle of the road pay.

So they really need the juniors to vote and put the "fear of god" into SAPA to not limit new hire voting to drastically ...
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Old 04-12-2018, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by N1234 View Post
Yup.

I am sure the company wants to give raises to FOs and little to nothing to CA.

The thing they fear the most is the backlash from the mid-seniority CA that have little/no QoL and middle of the road pay.

So they really need the juniors to vote and put the "fear of god" into SAPA to not limit new hire voting to drastically ...
They need to improve pay and QOL for captains otherwise nobody will want to upgrade.
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Old 04-12-2018, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by N1234 View Post
TMAAT when you failed as a leader ....
they have great stories now.
Savage !!

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Old 04-12-2018, 01:49 PM
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They are making the mistake of including old contract into the mix to say the Skywest captains are at industry scale. Contracts are about the future, not a combination of the present (Endeavor and Envoy) and the past (TSA, GJ, Compass, and all the others).

Skywest needs to pay more than Endeavour or Envoy. Skywest needs to pay more for not having a flow through. Skywest needs to pay more for not having mainline travel benefits.
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Old 04-12-2018, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
For how many years? I think 2nd year FO pay at Spirit exceeds first year pay for most upgrading regional captains.
You would have to be a 17 year CA at the current rates to match 2nd year Spirit FO pay. Gonna be really interesting to see what happens this summer..
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Old 04-12-2018, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by N1234 View Post
Apparently it was unanimous
Partially right. 3 voted for the 1 year, the rest voted against.

The part that was unanimous was afterward, voting for it to be after IOE. Would assume the 3 that had voted yes previously voted yes on this one as well since it was better than nothing.
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Old 04-12-2018, 06:33 PM
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I wonder if RJ knows what it’s like to actually fly for 104 hours?
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Old 04-12-2018, 08:56 PM
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I wonder if RJ knows what it’s like to actually fly for 104 hours?
Of course not.
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hawk21 View Post
They need to improve pay and QOL for captains otherwise nobody will want to upgrade.
Nah. They'll upgrade. And at 1,001 TPIC they're hitting the doors for ANYTHING else. Pilots can play this game too, in this economy.
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