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05-14-2018 | 09:29 PM

#10501

hawk21

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

They are not contractually responsible for WX CANX, so that's the preferred code. Sometimes it's even halfway true, ie a WX delayed crew times out. The fact that they had no reserves is beside the point.

Yup. I’ve had flights cancel for “weather” after we timed out because there wasn’t reserves.

05-14-2018 | 09:43 PM

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My understanding is a new contract is being worked on.

Yes at no great pace but it’s fine. The more net loss months we have the better for us. Take your time guys and give us a legitimate TA this time please.

05-15-2018 | 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by hawk21

Yes at no great pace but it’s fine. The more net loss months we have the better for us. Take your time guys and give us a legitimate TA this time please.

It is soooo cute , how you folks refer to it as a TA or contract. Pretending to have a union is absolutely adorable.

05-15-2018 | 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Flogger

It is soooo cute , how you folks refer to it as a TA or contract. Pretending to have a union is absolutely adorable.

It is in fact a legal contract, signed by both parties. I did a real estate deal last week, didn't have any unions involved in that contract either. The enforcement mechanism is different than with a union.

05-15-2018 | 06:18 AM

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It is soooo cute , how you folks refer to it as a TA or contract. Pretending to have a union is absolutely adorable.

You're adorable, troll.

05-15-2018 | 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

Your real estate transaction was between (most likely) two individuals with the legal authority to represent themselves. The "signed" deal is between Skywest and whom? As they're not a labor union, does SAPA have the legal standing to represent all Skywest pilots with one signature?

05-15-2018 | 07:50 AM

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Imagine having no life and going on regional airline forums to troll about unions. You all live sad, miserable lives.

05-15-2018 | 08:15 AM

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You're adorable, troll.

Guilty!!! And thanks!!

05-15-2018 | 08:16 AM

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Guilty!!! And thanks!!

Not a compliment.

05-15-2018 | 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BrewCity

Yup. RLA rules apply, common-law applies, and do not require a union. I love all you quasi-lawyers and quasi labor-law experts who somehow were led to believe (and fell for it) that you're not an adult and cannot do anything for yourself without a union.

There are plenty of problems at SKW, but the nature of the contract is not one of them. Enforcement is problematic and would require a lawsuit (which SAPA itself probably can't file). That means the company doesn't commit massive wholesale violations because that would probably get enough folks motivated enough to file suit, but they can do small-scale violations which would not be worth a lawsuit (at a union shop these would be grievances).