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Green Needles 03-19-2018 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2554235)
I just wonder what exactly you two think you are going to accomplish. We passed a horrible pay package. Most users here realize that and were quite vocal about it. Some of us are even trying to get ALPA on board. What is your endgame?

It's simple, to get you guys to see the light of day and up your standards. You guys have 4500+ pilots and some great bases. I want SkyWest to help up the game for everyone. It's a competitive pilots market. If you guys are recruiting enough to hurt our recruiting, the company comes to us with more money. Ever hear the expression "A rising tide lifts all ships"? A lot of pilot groups are enjoying that. You guys come along and bored holes in our hulls by accepting such a lousy package.

Check Complete 03-19-2018 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 2554329)
It's simple, to get you guys to see the light of day and up your standards. You guys have 4500+ pilots and some great bases. I want SkyWest to help up the game for everyone. It's a competitive pilots market. If you guys are recruiting enough to hurt our recruiting, the company comes to us with more money. Ever hear the expression "A rising tide lifts all ships"? A lot of pilot groups are enjoying that. You guys come along and bored holes in our hulls by accepting such a lousy package.

Ever been to Provo?

WesternSkies 03-19-2018 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 2554329)
It's simple, to get you guys to see the light of day and up your standards. You guys have 4500+ pilots and some great bases. I want SkyWest to help up the game for everyone. It's a competitive pilots market. If you guys are recruiting enough to hurt our recruiting, the company comes to us with more money. Ever hear the expression "A rising tide lifts all ships"? A lot of pilot groups are enjoying that. You guys come along and bored holes in our hulls by accepting such a lousy package.

Or you are a 9e old timer that can’t move on for obvious reasons.
This is all you have and it is painfully obvious.

word302 03-19-2018 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 2554329)
It's simple, to get you guys to see the light of day and up your standards. You guys have 4500+ pilots and some great bases. I want SkyWest to help up the game for everyone. It's a competitive pilots market. If you guys are recruiting enough to hurt our recruiting, the company comes to us with more money. Ever hear the expression "A rising tide lifts all ships"? A lot of pilot groups are enjoying that. You guys come along and bored holes in our hulls by accepting such a lousy package.

And you act like we don't know that already. Again, you're preaching to the choir dude.

NewGuy01 03-19-2018 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2553948)
They don't expect you to live there, unless you have a sugar momma, or the 'rents basement. Pilots are as much to blame for that as anyone.



Sorry but this is not only brutal but it implies that SkyWest won’t turn around and fire guys for missing a commute. It’s also compounded by the fact we have no commuting policy and SFO is notoriously bad for commuters when you consider flow.


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rickair7777 03-19-2018 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by NewGuy01 (Post 2554395)
Sorry but this is not only brutal but it implies that SkyWest won’t turn around and fire guys for missing a commute. It’s also compounded by the fact we have no commuting policy and SFO is notoriously bad for commuters when you consider flow.


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SKW never disciplined anyone for reasonable missed commutes, unless that's changed recently. The SKW non-policy was better than most other official policies (I had a room-mate at ASA, he had to use FMLA every time he missed a 4-day).

Few airlines are in a position to be commute nazis... they know they don't want to pay a living wage in major hubs. Otherwise they would just require that you live within 5 miles of the airport center point.

jacburn 03-19-2018 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2554403)
SKW never disciplined anyone for reasonable missed commutes, unless that's changed recently. The SKW non-policy was better than most other official policies (I had a room-mate at ASA, he had to use FMLA every time he missed a 4-day).

Few airlines are in a position to be commute nazis... they know they don't want to pay a living wage in major hubs. Otherwise they would just require that you live within 5 miles of the airport center point.

ASA's contract gave them as many commute miss trips as they could use as long as they tried to get on two flights to get to work or try one flight for 3 different times a year. You skywest guys really need to look at some contracts instead of listening to rumors.

gojo 03-19-2018 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by jacburn (Post 2554458)
ASA's contract gave them as many commute miss trips as they could use as long as they tried to get on two flights to get to work or try one flight for 3 different times a year. You skywest guys really need to look at some contracts instead of listening to rumors.

What’s a contract?

Green Needles 03-19-2018 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 2554380)
Or you are a 9e old timer that can’t move on for obvious reasons.
This is all you have and it is painfully obvious.

No, I've been here only a couple years. I was fortunate enough to time it at the beginning of the wave. There's no excuse for not doing everything we can to elevate our profession. Do it for yourselves, and those that will come in after us. Just because you had to walk to school uphill both ways doesn't mean the next generation shouldn't be able to ride the bus.

Green Needles 03-19-2018 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2554065)
Man, you’re wasting your time with that group. As the saying goes “you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.” I don’t get it anymore than you do

Haha. You can lead a horse to water, but what happens when you lead a pilot to money? :D


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