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There was a Skywest brasilia FO smuggling drugs a while ago and a Compass FO more recently.

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Originally Posted by popNfresh (Post 2554783)

I’ve been given a SAD when I have given myself 2 flights to get to work. My second option to SFO was hit with flow. I did not call off the trip and said I will get there as soon as I can. They didn’t have any reserves and my original flight departed 15 minutes late.

TG was sitting in crew support when the person was calling in. Gave himself more than 2 flights to go PDX-SEA. Weather rolled in and Horizon was canceling half of the flights and the other half were running really late and all full. Delta denied him the jump on a SkyWest operated flight because he did not know his PNR number. Last flight was a SkyWest CRJ that looked good but durin* boarding had a mechanical and needed to swap airplanes.

He did make the mistake by calling the Chief Pilot and not just calling off emergency. I made the same mistake commuting to SFO. Things you don’t really know to do when you are in your first 6 months at the airlines. He tried to do the right thing but in the end he got screwed. And yes he could have made the drive but from what I understand he took the train to Pdx and would have had to rent a car. Thought he could make the last flight but that went on mx. Due to the missed commute we had to cancel an Alaska BOI standup from SEA. TG wanted his head to roll to show Alaska we are serious...

The funny thing is the FO in question now works for Horizon. So we terminated him for Alaska and Alaska hires him...

Thank you for telling the story as it was. Did I mess up? You bet, but that was all there was to that story. Other important notes include that I did have 3 sick calls while at OO, 2 of them were the two weeks previous to the missed commute. That did not help my situation at all, on paper that made me look unreliable and I accept that. For anyone reading this if you call in sick, CYA and get a doctors note. If I would have gone to the doctor and proven that my ankle was sprained, that may have saved me but the bossman wasn’t having it.

Lemons into lemonade though, I’m now based in PDX on the Q and will most likely upgrade and be able to hold PDX as a CA within the next year... hopefully

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Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 2554841)

Glad he landed on his feet, and that is sadly hilarious.
TG meddling totally makes sense.
He’s losing the crowd.

Thanks, I’m very lucky that this happened in the current hiring environment. If It would have been 2012 or earlier, I’m fairly certain I wouldn’t be in the cockpit of a 121 carrier right now.

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Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 2554841)

Glad he landed on his feet, and that is sadly hilarious.
TG meddling totally makes sense.
He’s losing the crowd.

This is exactly why we need a policy that is applied uniformly, not being crushed when TG or some other Chief is ****ed. Or some other guy gets away with everything because he's a but kisser. The reason the company has it this way so they can use it to their advantage when want to target an individual. If the union drive ever gets any traction, the company will find out who's volunteering and punish them as they see fit because there is no policy.

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Originally Posted by Fixnem2Flyinem (Post 2554971)

Please, entertain me... personally... Since you seem to know what you’re talking about let us know what that individual in PDX did...

Wasnt trying to accuse you of anything nefarious or sketchy. Popnfresh beat me to it. That is exactly what i was going to say as well as the sick calls. Was purely trying to get the point across that SKW doesn't can someone for one missed commute. TG wanted to make an example out of someone. Im also glad you landed on your feet so quickly without a long down time!

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Originally Posted by Tippy (Post 2555239)

But he's the perfect example of why no policy is never a good thing

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Originally Posted by Tippy (Post 2555239)

Well SkyWest technically did can me for one missed commute, but then “allowed me to resign”. I never missed a commute prior to that. Also, didn’t know they could use my sick calls that I’m lawfully meant to make if I’m not fit to fly an airplane against me in a situation where I gave myself not 1, not 2 but 4 initial flights to get to work.. I get what you’re saying but trust me, without a policy SkyWest can fire you for anything really, and that’s what the SAPA guys told me. The funniest thing is I was advised I should have just called in sick by multiple people, that’s a great culture to have at an airline... :/
Not trying to knock SkyWest at all, it was a solid place I thought but I will be happy to go the rest of my career without running into the guy that wanted to make an example of me

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Originally Posted by Fixnem2Flyinem (Post 2555282)

If you called in sick for a missed commute, they would consider that dishonesty, which is the one thing which will get you fired real quick-like. Multiple attempts to nonrev or JS followed immediately by a sick call would leave a paper-trail a mile wide.

For others, if you miss a commute, call in honest, not sick. Sick days are not personal days at SKW. That way if they're short on reserves they can work with you to get you where they need you to be.

So now Mesa even had a "flow" program. Yes I know it's not a true flow like the AA wholy owned 's, but every carrier that has a CPP/Flow/ preferential interview etc. puts us at a disadvantage. 1) Class spots at XYX major are harder to come by as a percentage will be filled by those people. 2) If a pilot wanted to go to an airline that we had an agreement with, it would help with senority stagnation at the top aka lifers 3) Another reason to go somewhere else.

I know that flow/Cpp programs are sold as something awesome, yet the data shows it takes a while, however it's a nice thing to have in your back pocket/ another tool in the tool box.

Mesa gets one, yet we as the largest regional out there have nothing

“Why limit yourself to one major airline”. -SkyWest

Which really translate to

You’re on your own Sh*tbags