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trip 01-01-2018 05:52 PM

You will only get a personal thanks If you first message chief to let him know that you "helped out". Recognition is so underrated.

hawk21 01-01-2018 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate (Post 2493292)
How many months you need fella?

How many do you need? You’re the one getting impatient. Definite possibility we see more airplane announcements in 2018. I’m not guaranteeing anything. I’m just basing my input off what I heard during the summer. Like I said, rumor mill has been quiet lately. Personally I don’t wanna see more plane orders anytime soon.

amcnd 01-01-2018 07:39 PM

Ya. I figured the last batch of the “100” would be fall 2018-2019. We alread took on 60 in 2017 have 42 announced for 2018.. they need to be spread out or will have serious staffing issues...

RemoveB4Flight 01-02-2018 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2493578)
Ya. I figured the last batch of the “100” would be fall 2018-2019. We alread took on 60 in 2017 have 42 announced for 2018.. they need to be spread out or will have serious staffing issues...

FINALLY. Even if I’m not getting relief in my schedule, at least it’s a relief to hear you say something that doesn’t put the company on a pedestal. You’ve been blasting about “full classes every time you walk through the schoolhouse”.
We are biting off more than we can chew and very soon it’s going to be painfully obvious to the company.

Somehow “I told you so” never feels as good as I would like it to.

RemoveB4Flight 01-02-2018 12:39 PM

I wonder how we could possibly solve this impending staffing issue :confused: .......
Oh I know! Let’s lock ourselves into a 5 year contract with a 1% raise while everyone else makes meaningful increases. That should keep people coming in the door...

amcnd 01-02-2018 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight (Post 2493964)
I wonder how we could possibly solve this impending staffing issue :confused: .......
Oh I know! Let’s lock ourselves into a 5 year contract with a 1% raise while everyone else makes meaningful increases. That should keep people coming in the door...

Its already been “hinted” several times that we are talking “pay talks” already...

N1234 01-02-2018 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2494004)
Its already been “hinted” several times that we are talking “pay talks” already...

You mean there will be another "surprise" TA out of nowhere?

amcnd 01-02-2018 02:22 PM

For 2017 we had a net gain of 439 pilots.. what will 2018 hold..??.. but maybe some relief if we only take on 42 aircraft and keep up the aggressive hiring. I suspect that attrition will remain high as the Majors start picking up the pace...how much money they trow at us is the real question....

trip 01-02-2018 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2494016)
For 2017 we had a net gain of 439 pilots.. what will 2018 hold..??.. but maybe some relief if we only take on 42 aircraft and keep up the aggressive hiring. I suspect that attrition will remain high as the Majors start picking up the pace...how much money they trow at us is the real question....

I think the damage is done, it will be a revolving door now of low timers with no interest in SKYW other then 121/PIC and get out. I can't blame them, even the lowest paid LCC First Officers are making more then a senior RJ Captain.


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