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Originally Posted by Tippy
(Post 2492444)
Saw something interesting, a QX q400 at our hangar in Tus this morning? And clues? Thought it was strange.
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Pre purchase inspection.
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
(Post 2492417)
I was not a fan of the TA and voted no.
However, you are incorrect here. The SAPA bylaws require a pilot wide vote for any pay adjustments. The part of the TA you are referring to does not change that. This was confirmed multiple times by SAPA. What was also removed with this TR was that the max first year pay isn't now capped at $36.50 |
Originally Posted by Tippy
(Post 2492444)
Saw something interesting, a QX q400 at our hangar in Tus this morning? And clues? Thought it was strange.
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Sapa Prez update made my eyes roll into the back of my head but I do agree that many big good things happened in 2017 for this pilot group.
I thought it was funny that our 5 year agreement was called a 3.5 year agreement since it will only go 3.5 years past when the old was previously scheduled to expire. The idea that our agreement made other airlines open negotiations early is laughable. The general state of the market (which we do belong) has been causing the upward pressure for all of us. 64 airplanes in 2017 was huge though. One airline was talking for a long time about 14 (12?) CRJ200s and then they all didn't show. Other airlines slowed delivery or stopped delivery of new or transferring airplanes. A few airlines spent 2017 giving back airplanes. The bullet dodged in 2017 was the 30 CRJ700 contract that United didn't renew. Things would have stopped moving instantly if these planes didn't get signed by American. We expanded our American partnership greatly in 2017. |
Originally Posted by WesternSkies
(Post 2492645)
Upgrade dropped to a *qualified* new hire. I actually see this as a loss. The company can bring in street Captains instead of financially enticing internal upgrades. People don't want to go back on reserve because it sucks so bad, etc. If it was worth their while to upgrade they would. From my perspective..... |
Originally Posted by Check Complete
(Post 2492587)
"SAPA and the Company have agreed to review the First Officer Year 1 pay scales on a yearly basis. Upon mutual agreement between SAPA and the Company. the First Officer year 1 pay scales may be adjusted with or without modifying the remaining Pilot Policy Mnaual."
What was also removed with this TR was that the max first year pay isn't now capped at $36.50 What part of that that says the company can just do it at any point on their own? It says with agreement between SAPA and the company...and for SAPA to agree to it they have to have a pilot wide vote (SAPA bylaws). |
Originally Posted by WesternSkies
(Post 2492645)
Sapa Prez update made my eyes roll into the back of my head but I do agree that many big good things happened in 2017 for this pilot group.
I thought it was funny that our 5 year agreement was called a 3.5 year agreement since it will only go 3.5 years past when the old was previously scheduled to expire. The idea that our agreement made other airlines open negotiations early is laughable. The general state of the market (which we do belong) has been causing the upward pressure for all of us. SAPA has done some good things this year (minus the garbage TA) but for him to suggest that our concession of a TA pushed other regionals to pass industry leading contracts is an absolute joke. |
Originally Posted by amcnd
(Post 2492187)
Doubtful. They seem to do batches of 15-30....
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64 “new” airplanes. How many of those came from the ASA side?
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