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Excargodog 03-29-2018 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by OneFourLeft (Post 2561111)
Right now we are at a net loss of -2 pilots for March. They can fill the class, but can't keep them around.

Except they need to actually GROW the pilot group. Twenty-five new airframes are going to require at least 200 ADDITIONAL pilots if they are going to be utilized appropriately. And you are going to have to RETAIN the captains for those aircraft, and actually have to get new FOs THROUGH their initial training.


"On September 6, 2017, SkyWest Airlines reported that it has entered into aircraft purchase agreements and capacity purchase agreements to acquire and fly 15 new aircraft with Delta Air Lines and 10 new aircraft with Alaska Airlines. Of the 25 aircraft, 15 Embraer E175 SC aircraft will fly under an agreement with Delta in a 70-seat configuration. The E175 SC aircraft has an E175 airframe and can be retrofitted to 76 seats in the future. The agreement with Alaska includes 10 Embraer E175s, which will be configured with 76 seats, similar to aircraft SkyWest has previously placed into service with Alaska. Expected delivery dates of the 25 aircraft run from March 2018 through the end of 2018.[18]"

There truly is a shortfall of people QUALIFIED to be regional airline pilots, at least at current levels if remuneration in the regionals. Ignoring that reality is not the path to success for any airline. When LCC are gleefully hiring away even experienced FOs, it is time for regional airline management - even at Skywest - to acknowledge that reality.

flysooner9 03-29-2018 09:08 AM

I’m guessing they will acknowledge it pretty quick contrary to everyone’s opinion on here. They can’t afford to be parking planes when they own them. -2 ain’t going to get it done. As stated they need to be growing the pilot group not just maintaining.

Thunder Pig 03-29-2018 09:14 AM

I can’t keep up with the 175 travel benefits. Which airline’s benefits do 175 pilots get based at ORD?

Excargodog 03-29-2018 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by OneFourLeft (Post 2561111)
Right now we are at a net loss of -2 pilots for March. They can fill the class, but can't keep them around.


This is the pay scale for a Spirit FO for the three different Airbus models they fly:

3 112 112 112
2 104 104 104
1 56 56 56

These are their hiring requirements:


Minimums: 2,000 Total Time in Fixed Wing Aircraft 1,000 Multi-engine Aircraft

Preferred: 3,000 Total Time in Fixed Wing Aircraft 1,500 in multi-engine, multi-crew, turboprop or jet aircraft

....

It would seem like all of the captains and upgrade qualified FOs at Skywest qualify. Time for the management of the regional airlines, ALL OF THE REGIONAL AIRLINES INCLUDING SKYWEST,to deal with today's reality.

WesternSkies 03-29-2018 09:23 AM

The most obvious thing will save the regional model is a recession.

If the recession doesn’t happen, the interesting question to me is do all those affiliated with “major partner” understand that they are tied to the success of the regional model?

ejet 03-29-2018 09:27 AM

Is there any wait time for a class date on the 175 or CRJ? Hoping training isn't backed up here like it is at 9E, thanks!

rickair7777 03-29-2018 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 2561167)
The most obvious thing will save the regional model is a recession.

If the recession doesn’t happen, the interesting question to me is do all those affiliated with “major partner” understand that they are tied to the success of the regional model?

Who is tied to the success of the regional model? Other than regional lifers?

Excargodog 03-29-2018 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2561188)
Who is tied to the success of the regional model? Other than regional lifers?

^^^^^^


That!

Westernflight 03-29-2018 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by ejet (Post 2561172)
Is there any wait time for a class date on the 175 or CRJ? Hoping training isn't backed up here like it is at 9E, thanks!

Coming here because you have to wait to get into RAH or 9E will only hurt our chances during the ongoing negotiations. Honest truth of the whole situation. Enjoy your summer and wait to see how this shakes out for a few months, unless you want to help solidify SkyWest’s demise.

ejet 03-29-2018 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by Westernflight (Post 2561194)
Coming here because you have to wait to get into RAH or 9E will only hurt our chances during the ongoing negotiations. Honest truth of the whole situation. Enjoy your summer and wait to see how this shakes out for a few months, unless you want to help solidify SkyWest’s demise.

Would be looking at a class date around August anyways. I'm not considering 9E or RAH, just wondering what the chances are of a class date within 3 months of the interview!


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