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06-05-2016 | 06:37 PM
#1511
Dumb Pilot
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 784
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From: Broke
New Guy here,
I currently live in Houston & hoping to hold IAH eventually, but some have warned me it is a shrinking base and that alot of the 700s are leaving IAH and leading to a possible closure eventually. (I don't necessarily hope to hold IAH for a CA upgrade one day, but my goal is to live on base here at least while im an FO).
What are my best resources for understanding base shrinkage?
...I've heard many things from other friends warning me that trying to hold IAH is a dumb thing to do (1 SLC Skywest FO, a few envoy guys, and a mutual friend at Delta)... honestly i'm just not even sure what to look for or what questions to ask when considering whether trying to hold a line at IAH is a poor decision or not. Any help?
(yes I used search function, only found page 18 of this thread and one other page of relevance).
Thanks in advance, and sorry if this was a stupid question.
I currently live in Houston & hoping to hold IAH eventually, but some have warned me it is a shrinking base and that alot of the 700s are leaving IAH and leading to a possible closure eventually. (I don't necessarily hope to hold IAH for a CA upgrade one day, but my goal is to live on base here at least while im an FO).
What are my best resources for understanding base shrinkage?
...I've heard many things from other friends warning me that trying to hold IAH is a dumb thing to do (1 SLC Skywest FO, a few envoy guys, and a mutual friend at Delta)... honestly i'm just not even sure what to look for or what questions to ask when considering whether trying to hold a line at IAH is a poor decision or not. Any help?
(yes I used search function, only found page 18 of this thread and one other page of relevance).
Thanks in advance, and sorry if this was a stupid question.
Do not go to Mesa. That is a 50% pay cut compared to here.
06-05-2016 | 07:01 PM
#1512
Banned
Joined: Aug 2015
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United et al have jets coming because they know their regional partners can't staff their fleet. The -200 is the new Brasilia. SkyWest will keep it flying because they make money on them and we'll keep flying as many as we can staff. Although some -700 are being parked or brought to other paint, there is no scope limit on the 50 seaters. You and others keep saying the sky is falling, but it's not. If you want a pilot job, you can have a pilot job. In other words, SkyWest will shrink, not because of what United tells us what to fly. We'll shrink when we can't find enough pilots. At least until the next big economic downturn.
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50 seaters are capped at 90% of the total narrow body fleet. ~475 total, that's if the whole UAX fleet was 50 seaters but it's not. So for every 76 seater, roughly ~2 50 seaters get removed. There is also a cap on the total RJs based on the total narrow body fleet.
The fact that JB22 watched the united network planning videos tells me he's not much of a troll at all. FYI the current plan is to shrink the RJ flying by 30% over the next 5 years and in a month or 2 there will be no RJs flying bewtween UAL hubs. Keep trolling the the lifers JB22!
06-05-2016 | 07:19 PM
#1513
Line Holder
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,143
Likes: 7
From: 737
And.........your wrong.
50 seaters are capped at 90% of the total narrow body fleet. ~475 total, that's if the whole UAX fleet was 50 seaters but it's not. So for every 76 seater, roughly ~2 50 seaters get removed. There is also a cap on the total RJs based on the total narrow body fleet.
The fact that JB22 watched the united network planning videos tells me he's not much of a troll at all. FYI the current plan is to shrink the RJ flying by 30% over the next 5 years and in a month or 2 there will be no RJs flying bewtween UAL hubs. Keep trolling the the lifers JB22!
50 seaters are capped at 90% of the total narrow body fleet. ~475 total, that's if the whole UAX fleet was 50 seaters but it's not. So for every 76 seater, roughly ~2 50 seaters get removed. There is also a cap on the total RJs based on the total narrow body fleet.
The fact that JB22 watched the united network planning videos tells me he's not much of a troll at all. FYI the current plan is to shrink the RJ flying by 30% over the next 5 years and in a month or 2 there will be no RJs flying bewtween UAL hubs. Keep trolling the the lifers JB22!
06-05-2016 | 07:19 PM
#1514
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 472
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And.........your wrong.
50 seaters are capped at 90% of the total narrow body fleet. ~475 total, that's if the whole UAX fleet was 50 seaters but it's not. So for every 76 seater, roughly ~2 50 seaters get removed. There is also a cap on the total RJs based on the total narrow body fleet.
The fact that JB22 watched the united network planning videos tells me he's not much of a troll at all. FYI the current plan is to shrink the RJ flying by 30% over the next 5 years and in a month or 2 there will be no RJs flying bewtween UAL hubs. Keep trolling the the lifers JB22!
50 seaters are capped at 90% of the total narrow body fleet. ~475 total, that's if the whole UAX fleet was 50 seaters but it's not. So for every 76 seater, roughly ~2 50 seaters get removed. There is also a cap on the total RJs based on the total narrow body fleet.
The fact that JB22 watched the united network planning videos tells me he's not much of a troll at all. FYI the current plan is to shrink the RJ flying by 30% over the next 5 years and in a month or 2 there will be no RJs flying bewtween UAL hubs. Keep trolling the the lifers JB22!
That may all be true.
But why would anyone stop the RJ flying as long as it can be staffed, there is gate space and there are new routes where marginal revenue exceeds marginal cost?
Many former RJ routes may go mainline. But there are plenty of Nowhere Nebraskas out there that an RJ can and will go to. Just look at all the EAS locations. So the 50 sweaters will just go lower down the foot chain but they won't go away.
And while UA or DL may not be really all that interested, SKYW can do it as at-risk flying. Just look at the service to places like DVL. I doubt it is high on the UA route strategy but we serve it under the UA brand.... Plenty of more DVL out there that can be served.
As long as there is no scope limitation they will stay around...
Having said that, more mainline jobs are great for everyone.
06-05-2016 | 08:12 PM
#1515
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,875
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From: Downward Dog
Don't come here if driving to work in Houston is a big deal for you.
They are talking about closing it. I can't imagine it closing but all signs point to you being a commuter.
They are talking about closing it. I can't imagine it closing but all signs point to you being a commuter.
06-05-2016 | 09:28 PM
#1516
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Joined: May 2015
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I'm looking at coming over to Skywest in October. I'll be moving to Chicago. Hoping for the CRJ as it looks like that's where all the flying is. Obviously a lot can change between now and then, but as of right now, how long can a newhire expect to be on reserve in ORD?
06-06-2016 | 04:12 AM
#1517
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,612
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From: Guppy Gear Slinger
06-06-2016 | 04:52 AM
#1519
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Joined: Oct 2015
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New Guy here,
I currently live in Houston & hoping to hold IAH eventually, but some have warned me it is a shrinking base and that alot of the 700s are leaving IAH and leading to a possible closure eventually. (I don't necessarily hope to hold IAH for a CA upgrade one day, but my goal is to live on base here at least while im an FO).
What are my best resources for understanding base shrinkage?
...I've heard many things from other friends warning me that trying to hold IAH is a dumb thing to do (1 SLC Skywest FO, a few envoy guys, and a mutual friend at Delta)... honestly i'm just not even sure what to look for or what questions to ask when considering whether trying to hold a line at IAH is a poor decision or not. Any help?
(yes I used search function, only found page 18 of this thread and one other page of relevance).
Thanks in advance, and sorry if this was a stupid question.
I currently live in Houston & hoping to hold IAH eventually, but some have warned me it is a shrinking base and that alot of the 700s are leaving IAH and leading to a possible closure eventually. (I don't necessarily hope to hold IAH for a CA upgrade one day, but my goal is to live on base here at least while im an FO).
What are my best resources for understanding base shrinkage?
...I've heard many things from other friends warning me that trying to hold IAH is a dumb thing to do (1 SLC Skywest FO, a few envoy guys, and a mutual friend at Delta)... honestly i'm just not even sure what to look for or what questions to ask when considering whether trying to hold a line at IAH is a poor decision or not. Any help?
(yes I used search function, only found page 18 of this thread and one other page of relevance).
Thanks in advance, and sorry if this was a stupid question.
I would not count on IAH for the long term if that is important to you.
Almost all UA 700s will go away (I think there are only 6 or 7 left). UA is pursuing a single partner strategy in IAH and their chosen regional partner in IAH is Mesa, i.e. I would not expect any SKYW 175 to go to IAH.
Nobody knows for sure but I think there is a good chance that IAH will indeed close.
Even if IAH remains a base, you would likely have a hard time holding it relative to other senior folks who are living in IAH .
06-06-2016 | 07:34 AM
#1520
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 383
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From: ERJ
I'm looking at coming over to Skywest in October. I'll be moving to Chicago. Hoping for the CRJ as it looks like that's where all the flying is. Obviously a lot can change between now and then, but as of right now, how long can a newhire expect to be on reserve in ORD?
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