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Old 06-28-2016 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Funny how were complaining about not have DL/UA/AS and AA travel. When anyone that flys for Eagle only gets AA. Mesa. Same AA unles you fly the ERJ. Then UA.. Horizon. Only gets AS... We should be happy to have other options... But no. We like to complain..
It's not that. A reserve on the crj can literally fly any paint of airplane. But can only have benefits on 2 of the 4?

That's not complaining. That's as/aa benefitting from our pilots without giving said pilots even nonrev benefits which are already near garbage.

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Old 06-28-2016 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Funny how were complaining about not have DL/UA/AS and AA travel. When anyone that flys for Eagle only gets AA. Mesa. Same AA unles you fly the ERJ. Then UA.. Horizon. Only gets AS... We should be happy to have other options... But no. We like to complain..
Envoy helps no other operation out. Why should they get united benefits? Same for the others you pointed out.


If I fly a paint scheme, I want the benefits. I help them they help me. That's not complaining, that's setting expectations. But without a union we have no representation anyway.

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Originally Posted by elmetal
Envoy helps no other operation out. Why should they get united benefits? Same for the others you pointed out.


If I fly a paint scheme, I want the benefits. I help them they help me. That's not complaining, that's setting expectations. But without a union we have no representation anyway.

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Exactaly. They shouldn't.. So why should we. Be thankfull we get UA even though i never fly a UA RJ!!!
Old 06-28-2016 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Exactaly. They shouldn't.. So why should we. Be thankfull we get UA even though i never fly a UA RJ!!!
Because in Denver we fly American planes with no American benefits.... why does American benefit from us with no Bennies

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Old 06-28-2016 | 09:04 AM
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Because in Denver we fly American planes with no American benefits.... why does American benefit from us with no Bennies

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Nevermind. But i would doubt a union alpa would tackel getting travel benifits. If they did nit would come at some cost to the pilot group.. Not interested in giving leverage for AA benifits that i will never use...
Old 06-28-2016 | 09:18 AM
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Nevermind. But i would doubt a union alpa would tackel getting travel benifits. If they did nit would come at some cost to the pilot group.. Not interested in giving leverage for AA benifits that i will never use...
I won't use them either. I was just pointing out the fact that it's not us complaining or being entitled.

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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
Get that union drive going!!!! Gotta get you flight bennies on AA!!!
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It's not about the stupid benefits. It's one thing after another. Every airline is gaining at a profit record and here we are giving away.

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Originally Posted by elmetal
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It's not about the stupid benefits. It's one thing after another. Every airline is gaining at a profit record and here we are giving away.

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But its the same at alpa airlines. "One thing after another". Nothin will
Change. Majors have the same problem.. My AA pilot neighbor says the same thing.. Its always "One thing after another".. If you want perfection win the loto buy a jet and write your own perfect contract for yourself...

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Old 06-28-2016 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
But its the same at alpa airlines. "One thing after another". Nothin will
Change. Majors have the same problem.. My AA pilot neighbor says the same thing.. Its always "One thing after another".. If you want perfection win the loto buy a jet and write your own perfect contract for yourself...
This mentality is so idiotic, I really don't get it. ALPA or not, Major or not.......you don't get what you deserve......you get what you can negotiate (ask for, demand, complain about.....whatever......)

Without people complaining, and demanding better, nothing will change. In fact, they get worse. You have to fight to get things you want in this world.

By your logic, we should should just take what we're given or offered? Just because? or because it happens at alpa carriers or mainline?
That mentality is the #1 problem with this industry.
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Originally Posted by SMACFUM
This mentality is so idiotic, I really don't get it. ALPA or not, Major or not.......you don't get what you deserve......you get what you can negotiate (ask for, demand, complain about.....whatever......)

Without people complaining, and demanding better, nothing will change. In fact, they get worse. You have to fight to get things you want in this world.

By your logic, we should should just take what we're given or offered? Just because? or because it happens at alpa carriers or mainline?
That mentality is the #1 problem with this industry.
Or we can all vote for billery she's going to give us all free **** and take our guns we won't have to worry about a thing!!!!
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