It is for displacement, the number is how many days of pending. They can assign something that falls within your original footprint up to 72 hours prior, at which point it should change to DIOE, displaced for ioe. The credit will not display properly until the pay period gets processed in my experience. The crew pay tab should show it correctly, but it's been kind of hit or miss for me.

 

Thanks I appreciate it

 

73 new hires in class for anyone interested.

 

How many have English as a second language?

 

You should get paid for the trip, even if it doesn't show right away.

The PEN4 "should" be changed to DIOE at 72 hours but sometimes they don't get around to it and sometimes they'll leave it as PEN and then try to assign something inside the 72 hour window in the hopes that you'll go along with it.

Here's what you do...at EXACTLY 72 hours prior to show time log on and take a screen shot showing the time and either DIOE or PEN4. Then don't log on or return their phone calls. As long as you have proof that nothing was assigned at the 72 hour point , you're off the hook. They may try to pretend you're obligated to self-notify inside 72 hours but just ignore them, even if they call at show time asking where you are. They know the rules, but will try to play you to their advantage if they think they can get away with it. Just keep that screen shot...CS will frequently lie when they screw up in order to shift the blame to a crewmember.

If you want to fly, fine. If you get DIOE status then you can pick up anything you want during that time frame and get paid for both what you picked up and ALSO the value of the original DIOE trip.

 

Probably the majority of them, but think about it. How well would any of us native English speakers do if we moved to, say, Korea, and had to fly speaking only Korean?

It's a natural human tendency to assume that those who don't speak the same language as we do, are automatically less intelligent or capable. And 99.9% of that time, that assumption is wrong.

 

Not sure why this is relevant. So long as they do their job well of course.

 

How is this relevant?

And is this about language capabilities or something else? How do you feel about Brits, Aussies or Canadians flying in the US?

 

Blanket statement, and it's not entirely accurate for aviation.

Cultures have traits which are evolved and optimized for their home environment. Some cultures have traits which are not ideal for aviation, and in some cases severely counter-productive to safety.

For example a society which evolved in a very crowded and geographically limited area will tend to have a very formal and hierarchical culture. This tends to minimize conflicts and misunderstandings due to having a lot of people in a small area. But it's not good for CRM.

There have been extensive studies on societal power-distance and CRM. If you haven't read up on it, you should. Some countries have gone to great lengths to try to overcome their natural cultural tendencies in the CRM environment, and there are people here on APC who have worked as consultants to foreign airlines for that purpose.

US, UK, commonwealth, German, and Scandinavian cultures are among the best suited to aviation and safety statistics reflect that.

 

I'm not a new hire but, English is my second language. Also working on speaking a third language. How many languages do you speak?

Apples and oranges