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Old 08-04-2016, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Apokleros View Post
Don't feed the troll, ya'll....
Not a troll. I give info worthwhile.
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Old 08-04-2016, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina View Post
I just counted, out of curiosity.

Amazingly enough there are 588 FOs (give or take 10 or 20) who are more senior than the most junior CA just awarded. Given that we only have about 2000 FOs, that is a pretty large percentage.

Tells you something about life on reserve, or life commuting, or life commuting to reserve that nearly 600 pilots have bypassed upgrade to be able to hold a schedule they want in their home base.
Probably 200 afraid to upgrade, and will likely never even try (or fail miserably if they do).

Another 200 have jobs or businesses which pay enough that upgrade isn't important, plus they need the schedule flexibility for their other gig.

The other 200 are waiting for some combination of base/seniority before they pull the trigger.

Of those probably 300 will upgrade eventually, but not many of them any time soon. In general people who take the first upgrade don't move backwards in CA seniority. It can happen in a niche domicile, or if a domicile shrinks, but once you upgrade your global CA seniority should keep improving.
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Old 08-04-2016, 04:09 PM
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^ i agree. Tons that have sugar mommys.. And tons to scared to. And tons that will wait 3-4 years after they can (in school, small kids ect)
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Old 08-04-2016, 04:35 PM
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I know a couple of us are waiting until the holidays are over, I don't anticipate getting them off for awhile once we upgrade.
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Probably 200 afraid to upgrade, and will likely never even try (or fail miserably if they do).

Another 200 have jobs or businesses which pay enough that upgrade isn't important, plus they need the schedule flexibility for their other gig.

The other 200 are waiting for some combination of base/seniority before they pull the trigger.

Of those probably 300 will upgrade eventually, but not many of them any time soon. In general people who take the first upgrade don't move backwards in CA seniority. It can happen in a niche domicile, or if a domicile shrinks, but once you upgrade your global CA seniority should keep improving.
Yup. Although judging by my base, the majority probably have other gigs. Quite a high percentage of FOs have other jobs, I personally know quite a few of them. Not sure how it is in other bases, but for those guys, upgrading makes zero financial sense...
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Old 08-04-2016, 06:04 PM
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Done it before... On a much less efficient airplane (aka bro aka crediting over 4 a day was impossible. No one broke guarantee EVER).

Its gonna suck a bit, but I'm doing anything in my power to become better and more competitive to move on. It'll be at least a year before I can get back to den. And another year for a line. No way am I putting pic on hold for 2 years. I have no idea what this industry will look like next year much less 2 from now!

But i totally get the qol thing. It's hard to give up the ability to pick my days off and always get them. 32 hour 4 day last month, 26 hour 700 4 day (and I dont fly 4 days but that credit sucked me in)

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Old 08-04-2016, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules View Post
Good for you! That's why you will succeed. Because you have the right attitude and the drive to make it happen.
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Old 08-04-2016, 06:31 PM
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I think I've converted to team JB22. Keep up the good fight.
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Old 08-04-2016, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate View Post
You just keep telling yourself that.

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Old 08-05-2016, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350 View Post
I know a couple of us are waiting until the holidays are over, I don't anticipate getting them off for awhile once we upgrade.
I bet one year in DTW would get you holidays off. You know what they say about reigning in hell...
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