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Old 08-03-2016, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Utah View Post
We bid in November for the next year's vacation slots. Each slot is a week long. The company figures out how many weeks you can bid for based upon hours in your bank and how many you will accrue over the next year. Depending on the size of the domicile there will a set amount of slots for each week. It's awarded by seniority of course. If you have three weeks available you can bid them consecutively, whether or not you can hold it is something else. You also list your preferences saying if you cant give me time off in July, make it August, or June... You need to be rather senior to get Christmas, Thanksgiving or time off in the summer. If you don't get the weeks you want you'll be placed on a waiting list.

Now that's for the master bid. At anytime throughout the year you can put in for vacation as well. If it's more than a couple months out it may be immediately awarded, or you may be placed on a waiting list again.

You can cancel vacation (with some restrictions on when), or cancel just parts of it as well. You're not stuck with it.

When you upgrade, transfer, or transition you lose your vacation slot. As senior pilots to you do that (or they quit) that vacation time opens up again and is awarded to those on the waiting list.

I can routinely get 10+ days off while only using 4-5 days of vacation.
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Old 08-03-2016, 04:15 PM
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I hope it's doable, those are the classes I'm in. Anyone else here in that boat with me?

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Old 08-03-2016, 06:47 PM
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Upgrade 2 years 4 months
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Old 08-03-2016, 06:55 PM
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Excellent!
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Old 08-03-2016, 07:31 PM
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See you there !!
I'll also see you there.
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Old 08-03-2016, 08:25 PM
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Droping fast. I bet below 2 years by December..
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Old 08-03-2016, 09:07 PM
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Droping fast. I bet below 2 years by December..
Not sure it's going to get much lower. We're just about to hit the spot on the list where classes started getting huge.
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Old 08-03-2016, 10:05 PM
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See you suckers there. #ImThePlug

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Old 08-04-2016, 12:33 AM
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Not sure it's going to get much lower. We're just about to hit the spot on the list where classes started getting huge.
Does this mean that it will go up after that? I'm new to this whole 121 stuff.

Also , are rooms shared during training for ATP CPT, and the rest of training, doens't matter much, just wondering.
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:56 AM
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Does this mean that it will go up after that? I'm new to this whole 121 stuff.

Also , are rooms shared during training for ATP CPT, and the rest of training, doens't matter much, just wondering.
If you start class Monday the 8th. You will be around 4000 something on the seniority list. I started on the 25th. Company seniority was mid 3900s. We have moved up 20 something spots in two weeks. Junior captain, which is DTW CRJ is 2500ish. So, 1500 FOs in front of you have to get out of the way, either by A. upgrading, which requires 1500 captains to leave/get fired/retire/lose medical or B. Moving on to another job. 1500 pilots is a lot. The only other way upgrades stay at 24 to 36 months is to add flying. Which is predicated on getting new contracts and the bigger challenge, hiring enough new pilots to expand the seniority list faster than the current attrition rate. I will be surprised if I upgrade in 4 years. But you never know. If attrition stays at 60/month. A new hire could upgrade in 24 months. If the recruiting and training. Department can keep up. Upgrade time is a living breathing document. It's always changing.
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