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Old 08-03-2016 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
Upgrade 2 years 4 months
Droping fast. I bet below 2 years by December..
Old 08-03-2016 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
Droping fast. I bet below 2 years by December..
Not sure it's going to get much lower. We're just about to hit the spot on the list where classes started getting huge.
Old 08-03-2016 | 10:05 PM
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Old 08-04-2016 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by word302
Not sure it's going to get much lower. We're just about to hit the spot on the list where classes started getting huge.
Does this mean that it will go up after that? I'm new to this whole 121 stuff.

Also , are rooms shared during training for ATP CPT, and the rest of training, doens't matter much, just wondering.
Old 08-04-2016 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by AVIATOR3
Does this mean that it will go up after that? I'm new to this whole 121 stuff.

Also , are rooms shared during training for ATP CPT, and the rest of training, doens't matter much, just wondering.
If you start class Monday the 8th. You will be around 4000 something on the seniority list. I started on the 25th. Company seniority was mid 3900s. We have moved up 20 something spots in two weeks. Junior captain, which is DTW CRJ is 2500ish. So, 1500 FOs in front of you have to get out of the way, either by A. upgrading, which requires 1500 captains to leave/get fired/retire/lose medical or B. Moving on to another job. 1500 pilots is a lot. The only other way upgrades stay at 24 to 36 months is to add flying. Which is predicated on getting new contracts and the bigger challenge, hiring enough new pilots to expand the seniority list faster than the current attrition rate. I will be surprised if I upgrade in 4 years. But you never know. If attrition stays at 60/month. A new hire could upgrade in 24 months. If the recruiting and training. Department can keep up. Upgrade time is a living breathing document. It's always changing.
Old 08-04-2016 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by word302
We're just about to hit the spot on the list where classes started getting huge.
How big are we talking?
Old 08-04-2016 | 06:16 AM
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1500 is a lot but we're losing 40 a month on average and this is when United ha scaled back classes. It's not just captains that leave, a lot of FOs move on to lcc or mainline too. I think upgrade will stay below 3 years even tho we're hitting spots now where classes were around 60. It all depends on how many aircraft we lose, I will say Skywest seems to find homes for them more often than not. Recruiting is keeping up with hiring, they have tripled the size of the team and there's usually a job fair going on almost every week.
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Originally Posted by AVIATOR3
Also , are rooms shared during training for ATP CPT, and the rest of training, doens't matter much, just wondering.
Pretty sure it's all double occupancy unless you wanna pay for half of your own room.
Old 08-04-2016 | 07:17 AM
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Most junior CA is now a 3/31/14 hire, which is 2 years, 4 months. But as others have pointed out, SKW started hiring like crazy in early 2014. I can't imagine that upgrade will get any shorter, and for guys hired in the last year or so, it will probably get longer... Unless we get a lot more flying, of course.
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Most junior CA is now a 3/31/14 hire, which is 2 years, 4 months. But as others have pointed out, SKW started hiring like crazy in early 2014. I can't imagine that upgrade will get any shorter, and for guys hired in the last year or so, it will probably get longer... Unless we get a lot more flying, of course.
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