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Old 08-04-2016 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
It's me it's me it's me!
I'm so excited!
Congrats!

As for me, I ain't going anywhere until I can hold a line in my home base. They could give me a fifth stripe and I still wouldn't commute to reserve again!
Old 08-04-2016 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Congrats!

As for me, I ain't going anywhere until I can hold a line in my home base. They could give me a fifth stripe and I still wouldn't commute to reserve again!
Done it before... On a much less efficient airplane (aka bro aka crediting over 4 a day was impossible. No one broke guarantee EVER).

Its gonna suck a bit, but I'm doing anything in my power to become better and more competitive to move on. It'll be at least a year before I can get back to den. And another year for a line. No way am I putting pic on hold for 2 years. I have no idea what this industry will look like next year much less 2 from now!

But i totally get the qol thing. It's hard to give up the ability to pick my days off and always get them. 32 hour 4 day last month, 26 hour 700 4 day (and I dont fly 4 days but that credit sucked me in)

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Old 08-04-2016 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Done it before... On a much less efficient airplane (aka bro aka crediting over 4 a day was impossible. No one broke guarantee EVER).

Its gonna suck a bit, but I'm doing anything in my power to become better and more competitive to move on. It'll be at least a year before I can get back to den. And another year for a line. No way am I putting pic on hold for 2 years. I have no idea what this industry will look like next year much less 2 from now!

But i totally get the qol thing. It's hard to give up the ability to pick my days off and always get them. 32 hour 4 day last month, 26 hour 700 4 day (and I dont fly 4 days but that credit sucked me in)

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Smart move on your part! Have fun, enjoy upgrade and don't eat every meal at Lofte's
Old 08-04-2016 | 08:06 AM
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Hah! Never do!

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Old 08-04-2016 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
See you suckers there. #ImThePlug

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Congrats !
Old 08-04-2016 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ImPilot I Fly
If you start class Monday the 8th. You will be around 4000 something on the seniority list. I started on the 25th. Company seniority was mid 3900s. We have moved up 20 something spots in two weeks. Junior captain, which is DTW CRJ is 2500ish. So, 1500 FOs in front of you have to get out of the way, either by A. upgrading, which requires 1500 captains to leave/get fired/retire/lose medical or B. Moving on to another job. 1500 pilots is a lot. The only other way upgrades stay at 24 to 36 months is to add flying. Which is predicated on getting new contracts and the bigger challenge, hiring enough new pilots to expand the seniority list faster than the current attrition rate. I will be surprised if I upgrade in 4 years. But you never know. If attrition stays at 60/month. A new hire could upgrade in 24 months. If the recruiting and training. Department can keep up. Upgrade time is a living breathing document. It's always changing.


Keep in mind that not all those will take the first upgrade. I large percentage wait until they have a better schedule, or their base has openings. This means they get skipped, and the next junior guy gets to upgrade. We probably have a few hundred FO's that can hold captain positions, but choose not to.


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Old 08-04-2016 | 09:19 AM
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I'll take the optimist's position here and remind everyone that the exodus to the majors is still spooling up. Hopefully no regional will be able to keep up with that attrition and we'll all get to go to mainline
Old 08-04-2016 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mobius27
I'll take the optimist's position here and remind everyone that the exodus to the majors is still spooling up. Hopefully no regional will be able to keep up with that attrition and we'll all get to go to mainline
Especially with summer flying starting to wind down, the training centers will be gearing up once again for the fall.

I'll drink that half full glass of yours and say there's going to be a lot of movement within the regional ranks here shortly.
Old 08-04-2016 | 10:12 AM
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I bet that many of our captains already have CJOs and class dates but have not announced it yet to the company until their time cometh in the fall.
Old 08-04-2016 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by saxman66
Keep in mind that not all those will take the first upgrade. I large percentage wait until they have a better schedule, or their base has openings. This means they get skipped, and the next junior guy gets to upgrade. We probably have a few hundred FO's that can hold captain positions, but choose not to.


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I just counted, out of curiosity.

Amazingly enough there are 588 FOs (give or take 10 or 20) who are more senior than the most junior CA just awarded. Given that we only have about 2000 FOs, that is a pretty large percentage.

Tells you something about life on reserve, or life commuting, or life commuting to reserve that nearly 600 pilots have bypassed upgrade to be able to hold a schedule they want in their home base.
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